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Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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I don't understand why grossly misinformed comments like this always make it to the top in these threads. Yes, the headset exists and it works. People wore it after the keynote and wrote about the experience.

“Exists and works” is not Apple’s normal bar for a product launch. They routinely ship 100M units in a sales cycle.

The existence and functionality of iPhone at launch:

> They had AT&T, the iPhone’s wireless carrier, bring in a portable cell tower, so they knew reception would be strong. > > Then, with Jobs’s approval, they preprogrammed the phone’s display to always show five bars of signal strength regardless of its true strength. > The chances of the radio’s crashing during the few minutes that Jobs would use it to make a call were small, but the chances of its crashing at some point during the 90-minute presentation were high. [1]

This mobile data hackn was among many other problems with the product at the announcement of iPhone.

iPhone sold ~1.4 million units in the first year. But arguably, the Vision Pro is easily 10x more complex of a product than iPhone was. It is also a much bigger leap in human computer interaction than a touchscreen.

I think these sales projection numbers seem reasonable for what the tech is, and if anything the system’s stability at demo was way further along than iPhone.

[1] https://archive.is/Bo5f5

Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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post #138

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Could you provide an example of the sort of thing you’re talking about? Because I’m the type of person the other commenter was talking about (I’ve been in the Apple ecosystem for a very long time), and I feel I’m too close to it to have a reasonably objective viewpoint on it one way or the other.

How about iOS Settings? There are, counting now, 8 sections of settings before the ninth which is “all third-party apps alphabetically” (that last one is mainly where you can grant/deny a short list of entitlements for those such as location, cell data, etc.) Those 9 sections are all unlabeled for some insane reason (I suppose maybe this type of plain table view thing has never had a UI element to make headings?), so…

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Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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Holy hell this drove me crazy the other day. Firefox wouldn't work, but my backup, Chrome, did. But a fresh Firefox profile also worked. So I figured I must've left a bad user-agent string or something in my about:config. But after lots of trial and error with FF settings, curl/dig, with VPN, without VPN... turns out it was because I was using Cloudflare DNS. I forgotten I'd switched a while back when I was getting d…

Correct - archive.is doesn't like not getting EDNS from Cloudflare ( https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ ), so Cloudflare sends you to 1.1.1.7 to indicate a problem.

So archive.is is upset Cloudflare isn't forwarding the EDNS data, even though the feature's RFC itself states:

> If we were just beginning to design this mechanism, and not documenting existing protocol, it is unlikely that we would have done things exactly this way.

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> We recommend that the feature be turned off by default in all nameserver software, and that operators only enable it explicitly in those circumstances where it provides a clear benefit for their clients. We also encourage the deployment of means to allow users to make use of the opt-out provided. Finally, we recommend that others avoid techniques that may introduce additional metadata in future work, as it may damage user trust.

Seems archive.is is in the wrong here, which is a little surprising. Don't meet your heroes I guess. But then I also can't see their rebuttal because Twitter is currently a dumpster fire.

Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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Apple are at the “the technology isn’t quite there yet” phase. When they enter the market you’ll know you’ll probably get something semi reliable.

I'm typing this on a foldable phone right now, which is plenty reliable. One of the enduring myths about Apple's late entry into product sectors is the idea that they're waiting to "get it right". The first iPhone was a joke, it took them until the 3GS to get it right.

Not sure what happened to the original reply I typed.

The recent pixel foldable shows the way to totally screw up a foldable screen. I’m sure you’re totally happy with yours, but all the foldables I’ve seen have distortion at the fold and it’s definitely a week point that will eventually degrade. Not for me.

I was actually around when the first iPhone came about. As a tech enthusiast it was incredibly disruptive. Everyone was still shipping devices with stylus and this device with a capacitive screen came and blew everyone’s socks off. I don’t think anyone can rewrite that history.

Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

#195
post #138

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> Apple does UX well. I hear people say this often enough to question my own sanity, because I don't find Apple's UX to be very good at all. I find it confusing and it makes things difficult to figure out.

Could you provide an example of the sort of thing you’re talking about? Because I’m the type of person the other commenter was talking about (I’ve been in the Apple ecosystem for a very long time), and I feel I’m too close to it to have a reasonably objective viewpoint on it one way or the other.

As a daily mac user at work (against my will), there is much to complain about mac's UX. The big problem here is that no way anyone is objective given that most UX becomes "good" after repeated use.

I have many examples, but I'll just pick one. When having multiple instances of an app, the doc adds a "dot" by the app icon. This dot is present no matter whether I have 2 instances or 10 instances. Oftentimes I forget instances there (which can open due to many reasons, including for instance private browsing) because it's not easy to tell that I have 3, instead of my usual 2 instances.

Additionally, switching instances is unnecessary slow and requires more clicks than the older Windows taskbar (which is hopefully coming back as MSFT imitated Apple's terrible UX). Maybe you love this but I objectively lose productivity with this UX decision.

Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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post #168

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Holy hell this drove me crazy the other day. Firefox wouldn't work, but my backup, Chrome, did. But a fresh Firefox profile also worked. So I figured I must've left a bad user-agent string or something in my about:config. But after lots of trial and error with FF settings, curl/dig, with VPN, without VPN... turns out it was because I was using Cloudflare DNS. I forgotten I'd switched a while back when I was getting d…

Correct - archive.is doesn't like not getting EDNS from Cloudflare ( https://jarv.is/notes/cloudflare-dns-archive-is-blocked/ ), so Cloudflare sends you to 1.1.1.7 to indicate a problem.

Just to be clear: there's no Cloudflare special case here. We're not sending you to 1.1.1.7. We just send whatever the archive.is auth servers decide to send to us. They are auth after all. If we returned 1.1.1.7 it's because they did.

Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you provide an example of the sort of thing you’re talking about? Because I’m the type of person the other commenter was talking about (I’ve been in the Apple ecosystem for a very long time), and I feel I’m too close to it to have a reasonably objective viewpoint on it one way or the other.

As a daily mac user at work (against my will), there is much to complain about mac's UX. The big problem here is that no way anyone is objective given that most UX becomes "good" after repeated use. I have many examples, but I'll just pick one. When having multiple instances of an app, the doc adds a "dot" by the app icon. This dot is present no matter whether I have 2 instances or 10 instances. Oftentimes I forget i…

This is a good example of typical UX complaints which boil down to "this is not the thing I learned on." I personally don't think the early 2000s were the peak of computer UX, but I understand that most people don't like change.

Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

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Based on the articles I've read about this product, it might be the most advanced consumer tech we've ever seen. It would be a surprise if the production was a smooth sailing.

It's created seemingly for a high growth part of the cycle and not a recession. It might fail based on that timing?

Re: Apple forced to make major cuts to Vision Pro headset production plans

#200

Based on the articles I've read about this product, it might be the most advanced consumer tech we've ever seen. It would be a surprise if the production was a smooth sailing.

It's created seemingly for a high growth part of the cycle and not a recession. It might fail based on that timing?

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