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Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by steveBK123 » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:37 AM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #227

steveBK123 wrote: post #216

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Had an Ultrasharp 27" 4k USB-C that passed the sniff test spec-wise on paper, and was a great deal, again, for the specs.. but it just had awful glare/reflections, low brightness.. backlight failed in under 2 years, warranty service was awful, and they sent me a replacement with a green pixel line. Just an absolute clown show of warranty service. The ROI on the replacement was negative, I'd have been better off throw…

I've owned 6 UltraSharps and 2 of them are even nearly 20 years old and still work. I gave them to someone a few years ago. My old office had UltraSharps and they were flawless, I even requested them because the monitors they originally gave me hurt my eyes. Maybe you just got a bad egg, which happens to virtually every manufacturer.

I have had warranty service with other companies, my Dell experience was such that I would write off any damaged product I was gifted in the future, and not buy another one myself again.

Hours in iMessage chat with offshore reps, having to record videos of various diagnostics before they'd issue an RMA. Just to be sent another broken monitor. Clown show.

Honestly, make me pay to ship it to you and if I lied about it being broken, send it back. I do not have time for multi-hour 200 message iMessage conversations over a $400 monitor.

Eizo warranty service could not have been simpler. And the product they sent back worked!

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by fomine3 » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:38 AM UTC

johnwalkr wrote: post #213

fomine3 wrote: post #181

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IBM T221 (2001, over 4K) was popped up from the future.

Very cool but not really relevant to what was/is available for reasonable prices.

Second hand one was very cheap ($600?) in 2010 IIRC, still futuristic at the time.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by 111111IIIIIII » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:38 AM UTC

uptown wrote: post #222

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #85

I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

Ugly camera blob up top bother you at all?

Not enough to have a lower resolution display, and if a higher refresh rate will get rid of it then that is news to me. Will it?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by steveBK123 » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:38 AM UTC

dewey wrote: post #76

steveBK123 wrote: post #48

Friends dont let friends buy Dell monitors.

What's the issue with Dell monitors? I'm still using my Dell P2715Q (4k) from > 5 years ago every day and the only reason that would make me switch is that it doesn't support the latest HDMI connections any more.

Customer service / warranty is a joke. They'd rather spend hours slow walking an RMA, hoping you give up, rather than actually dealing with the problem.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by dylan604 » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:42 AM UTC

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #230

dylan604 wrote: post #210

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who in the world wants to use a 2:3 pulldown pattern on a progressive monitor? the majority of my career has been in properly removing 2:3 pulldown, the other portion was back in the bad-ol-days of putting it in.

> who in the world wants to use a 2:3 pulldown pattern on a progressive monitor? At least everyone tasked with editing 3:2 pulldown footage for 3:2 pulldown distribution, which is most of the video editors in North America the last time I checked.

Who wants 3:2 content for distribution? No streaming platform wants 3:2, and they all want the footage delivered as progressive scan. Some will say things like "native frame rate", but I find that a bit misleading. There are plenty of television shows shot on film at 24fps, telecined to 30000/1001 with 2:3 introduced, then place graphic content rendered at 30p. The term "do least harm" gets used so that taking this content to 24000/1001 so the majority of the content (that shot on film is clean) while leaving graphics potentially jumpy (unless proper frame conversion with an o-flow type of conversion that nobody really wants to pay for).

Edit: also, any editor worth their salt will take the telecined content back to progressive for editing. if they then need to deliver like it's 2005 to an interlaced format, they would export the final edit to 30000/1001 with a continuous 2:3 cadence. only editors unfamiliar with proper techniques would edit the way you suggest.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by chihuahua » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:46 AM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #149

WheatMillington wrote: post #141

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What about the other very large group, like me, who can easily tell the difference but it's very much not worth the price of admission?

Exactly. I can easily tell the difference and couldn't care less. Brightness, pixel density, and contrast/blacks (including glossiness) are what I care about in terms of image quality. Maybe if I were a gamer it would matter, but I couldn't care less about how smooth scrolling or cursor movement is. It doesn't change my productivity or affect my comfort at all.

Same here. I don't care about any of those things.

All I want is a large monitor (currently 43" + 27"), so I can get my work done, then turn off the monitors and collect my paycheck.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by foldor » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:48 AM UTC

p1necone wrote: post #226

jiggawatts wrote: post #180

We've had the technology for a while now to make an 8K HDR 120 Hz OLED monitor. The panel tech exists, the scalers exist, the ports and cables also both exist. We'll have this available for purchase any decade now... any decade. Soon, perhaps as early as the 2030s, 2040s tops! All joking aside, I'm tempted to create a GoFundMe page for this and see if there's other people out there interested in convincing a panel ma…

I've got the opposite request. I'd love a native 720p oled of a decent size for playing Switch (and PS3/360, I've got a bit of collection) games on. It's probably a niche market, but most games on the switch run natively at somewhere between 720 and 1080p and look awful scaled up to 4k.

Why not 1440p with integer 2x scaling?

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by DiabloD3 » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:51 AM UTC

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #152

akaru wrote: post #147

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Check your math, son.

My point is none of these refresh rates are multiples of 23.976.

So set your monitor to 119.88 instead of 120.

Theres a reason why monitors give you both x/1000 and x/1001 framerates.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by Dylan16807 » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:51 AM UTC

rjh29 wrote: post #201

Aeolun wrote: post #126

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Same difference between 30 and 60hz I imagine. Feels like you go from mega choppy to smooth as butter.

A variable rate between 30-60 is absolutely worse than consistent 30fps.

If you display those frames on a 60Hz screen, it's an awful effect. If the screen natively supports variable frame times, there's a lot more upside and a lot less downside.

Re: Can Dell’s 6K monitor beat their 8K monitor?

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife » Tue, Jul 04, 2023, 2:54 AM UTC

111111IIIIIII wrote: post #85

I just purchased 2 of the 6Ks and I am keeping both. AMA. I do not understand the complaints about pixel density. The display is 223 ppi, which is the same or slightly higher than Apple displays. I am using them in a dual display configuration with an M1 Macbook Pro via TB4 and a Windows PC with an RTX 4090 via DisplayPort. The KVM feature makes switching back and forth a breeze. I am using 175% scaling (in Windows)…

There’s an app called Synergy that lets you seamlessly move mouse and keyboard input between devices, if you ever feel the need to run the Mac and the Windows machines side by side rather than using a KVM switch.