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Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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Legally speaking there’s no issue with driving LHD in the UK, or RHD on the mainland, as long as you keep to the correct side of the road (which is a legal imposition).

> as long as you keep to the correct side of the road (which is a legal imposition). And a physical one.

Other drivers are usually quite accommodating, to the extent that they can be. The number of wrong-way drivers who don’t immediately die is impressive.

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I think in the UK and Japan the model S and model X are far too large to ever be big sellers. There are even some bridges in the UK that the model X can’t cross because it is too wide.

Some of the most popular higher end cars on our roads in the UK are Land Rovers and Range Rovers (and similar sized less high end SUVs from Kia etc), all of which are wider than an X. I've driven some really rural narrow roads in my Range Rover and have never encountered a bridge or road I can't use... would be keen to read a source on that bridges thing as it's completely new to me and is failing my sniff test.

There are tons of bridges around the UK with a 6ft 6 width restriction, for example Chelsea Bridge in London. The X is 6ft 6.6 inches wide.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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I didn’t realize it was legal to drive left hand drive cars in the UK. Isn’t that generally less safe? I’m really surprised a company this large would end support for the right hand drive configuration.

Famous example in the UK in the last couple of years: the US spy Anne Sarcoolas killed a teenager on his motorcycle driving on the wrong side of the road and then fled the country.

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Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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Yes, one of the upsides of driving on the left is that it has spared the UK/Australia/Japan from those awful American gas guzzler tanks.

Er... https://www.carscoops.com/2023/04/strong-australian-demand-c... I guess the limiting factor is more the size of typical parking spaces, garages and so on. But still, there is an undeniable trend of cars getting "fatter" in Europe too. SUVs are currently the best-selling category. Ok, these are more "compact" SUVs rather than the "tank-type" ones, but still bigger (especially higher, which is bad for collisions…

Yeah there are a few exceptions (some people also just import them) but we have avoided the worst of it so far. Anyone who has driven in the US knows that the average car size way larger.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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Sounds like The Onion.

Indeed. Even disregarding all the legal and moral issues, just the mental image of trying to use this crap to simply park the car is hilarious. Imagine trying to swipe your credit card holding it with a flimsy stick perpendicular to the contact pad. Or trying to insert a paper parking ticket upon exiting parking in the tiny slot two meters far. Or getting a paper package from a drive-thru with easily a kilogram of food and drinks. Clown show. :)

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of the most popular higher end cars on our roads in the UK are Land Rovers and Range Rovers (and similar sized less high end SUVs from Kia etc), all of which are wider than an X. I've driven some really rural narrow roads in my Range Rover and have never encountered a bridge or road I can't use... would be keen to read a source on that bridges thing as it's completely new to me and is failing my sniff test.

There are tons of bridges around the UK with a 6ft 6 width restriction, for example Chelsea Bridge in London. The X is 6ft 6.6 inches wide.

Right ok I misunderstood I thought you meant physically can't cross rather than not permitted, yes that is correct!

However if you stand at the Albert Bridge (which is the one you meant with that width restrictions) you'll see tonnes of LR and RR going through which are wider than that as well as Sprinter vans which are about the same as the X... I can only assume the police take the view that if you fit through the width restriction (which must have some leeway on them as bigger LRs are about 81") they won't bother you...?

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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How is it worth to lose the UK, AU and Japanese market with this move? I'm seeing a lot of Teslas in London, I don't see how eliminating the right-hand configuration is justifiable economically. Yeah it might be a ball ache to design a car that supports both driving styles, but all brands with global reach have to deal with it. The grabbing stick is equivalent to being told "fuck you for living in one of those countr…

I think in the UK and Japan the model S and model X are far too large to ever be big sellers. There are even some bridges in the UK that the model X can’t cross because it is too wide.

In Australia they are far too expensive and NZ market is too small. Plus Japan likely are too obsessed with their own cars.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are tons of bridges around the UK with a 6ft 6 width restriction, for example Chelsea Bridge in London. The X is 6ft 6.6 inches wide.

Right ok I misunderstood I thought you meant physically can't cross rather than not permitted, yes that is correct! However if you stand at the Albert Bridge (which is the one you meant with that width restrictions) you'll see tonnes of LR and RR going through which are wider than that as well as Sprinter vans which are about the same as the X... I can only assume the police take the view that if you fit through the…

Yeah I think that is true, I think the goal of the width restriction is really about weight - they don't want very heavy HGVs going back and forth over it all day so they probably don't care about SUVs

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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How is it worth to lose the UK, AU and Japanese market with this move? I'm seeing a lot of Teslas in London, I don't see how eliminating the right-hand configuration is justifiable economically. Yeah it might be a ball ache to design a car that supports both driving styles, but all brands with global reach have to deal with it. The grabbing stick is equivalent to being told "fuck you for living in one of those countr…

1. Is it really a surprise coming from Musk? 2. Teslas are not built in the UK, between the import duties from brexit and the extra strong recession from brexit, I wouldn’t assume it’s a huge market for tesla 3. Same as japan, where teslas are status symbols for people with a lot of money, they sell low-mid thousands a year, which is less than they sell in Norway (a country with 1/20th the population) in a month. Tha…

Australia has poor incentives to buy EVs. New Zealand is doing very well with 30-50% of new/all vehicles registered in June being EV/PHEV or hybrid. India, Pakistan, Indonesia and Bangladesh all want a word. They, with Japan, are all right hand drive and have over 2.1b people.
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