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Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

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Good. Fewer of these ugly, oversized cars (the model X) on British roads. The damn things have fat arses and I hate driving behind them - they fall in to some kind of uncanny valley size wise. https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1605256/tesla-model-x-model-...

Yes, one of the upsides of driving on the left is that it has spared the UK/Australia/Japan from those awful American gas guzzler tanks.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#82

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The stick really is a "fuck you", that Tesla fan boys will think is funny; I think it's funny someone spending so much money would accept that, maybe they've never driven a wrong-handed car in the UK before and just don't realise how much of a hazard it is. That said, I'm more interested in why it's not illegal to intentionally sell brand new cars with the wrong handedness, in any country. There are several manoeuvre…

Tesla is basically not selling the S and X in the UK anymore. But they are still allowed to buy a LHD version for some reason, that must have more to do with UK’s own laws on fancier cars that they already import from Italy and Germany?

I'm not sure. Even Italian super cars in the UK are right hand drive, but with an import I can understand it being ok; the person buying it knows what's what, but I feel like Tesla (or anyone else) shouldn't be allowed to sell LHD direct to the public in the UK when we don't drive on the right.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla is basically not selling the S and X in the UK anymore. But they are still allowed to buy a LHD version for some reason, that must have more to do with UK’s own laws on fancier cars that they already import from Italy and Germany?

It's not illegal to sell or register a 'wrong-handed' car in the UK and most (all?) of Europe.

Definitively legal in all EU member countries (registration potentially with some adjustments, e.g. to correct the beam pattern of the lights).

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stick really is a "fuck you", that Tesla fan boys will think is funny; I think it's funny someone spending so much money would accept that, maybe they've never driven a wrong-handed car in the UK before and just don't realise how much of a hazard it is. That said, I'm more interested in why it's not illegal to intentionally sell brand new cars with the wrong handedness, in any country. There are several manoeuvre…

Tesla is basically not selling the S and X in the UK anymore. But they are still allowed to buy a LHD version for some reason, that must have more to do with UK’s own laws on fancier cars that they already import from Italy and Germany?

Legally speaking there’s no issue with driving LHD in the UK, or RHD on the mainland, as long as you keep to the correct side of the road (which is a legal imposition).

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#85

I didn’t realize it was legal to drive left hand drive cars in the UK. Isn’t that generally less safe? I’m really surprised a company this large would end support for the right hand drive configuration.

It's legal , but no way would I drive a left-hand drive car on the left side of the road and vice-versa. Saw lots of UK right-hand-drive cars tootling around France, and even been driven in one there. But no way would I consider doing that myself, or the reverse in the UK. To pass anybody, you have to take the whole of the car out from behind the car in front of you to see whether it's safe enough to pass, instead of…

You’ll find a lot of RHD cars in the Russian Far East (> 50%) as well because Japan makes cars older than 5 or 6 years unusable and so they have to be exported.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#86

I didn’t realize it was legal to drive left hand drive cars in the UK. Isn’t that generally less safe? I’m really surprised a company this large would end support for the right hand drive configuration.

It is legal to drive a left hand drive car here, but I'm also surprised it's legal to sell one new. It is definitely much less safe. I was in a near fatal accident with a left hand drive truck who didn't see me in his blindspot because the steering wheel was on the wrong side.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#87
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1. Is it really a surprise coming from Musk? 2. Teslas are not built in the UK, between the import duties from brexit and the extra strong recession from brexit, I wouldn’t assume it’s a huge market for tesla 3. Same as japan, where teslas are status symbols for people with a lot of money, they sell low-mid thousands a year, which is less than they sell in Norway (a country with 1/20th the population) in a month. Tha…

This is just plain wrong. Last year Tesla sold 56,000 cars in the UK. That makes it about the same size market as the next three largest European countries combined. Given the doom mongering in the news you’d assume everyone in the UK is foraging in bins for their food, but the reality is there is plenty of people with money.

>you’d assume everyone in the UK is foraging in bins for their food, but the reality is there is plenty of people with money.

There is almost never a dearth of people with money. The median income is more telling about the state of a nation.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#89
post #8

How is it worth to lose the UK, AU and Japanese market with this move? I'm seeing a lot of Teslas in London, I don't see how eliminating the right-hand configuration is justifiable economically. Yeah it might be a ball ache to design a car that supports both driving styles, but all brands with global reach have to deal with it. The grabbing stick is equivalent to being told "fuck you for living in one of those countr…

I think in the UK and Japan the model S and model X are far too large to ever be big sellers. There are even some bridges in the UK that the model X can’t cross because it is too wide.

Re: Tesla gives UK owners grabbing stick after forcing them to get left-hand-drive

#90
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How is it worth to lose the UK, AU and Japanese market with this move? I'm seeing a lot of Teslas in London, I don't see how eliminating the right-hand configuration is justifiable economically. Yeah it might be a ball ache to design a car that supports both driving styles, but all brands with global reach have to deal with it. The grabbing stick is equivalent to being told "fuck you for living in one of those countr…

Elon’s ego getting into Tesla decision making.

Is he wrong though? Sometimes you need to make a statement, like Apple not willing to do chatcontrol. Sometimes it's just time. It's time to drop empirical units, to much damage has been caused. My own language has so many exceptions to the "rules" that every generation spends a lot of time learning them (i.e. we say all 2 digit numbers backwards, it gets every generation, every time), again and again. It's like technical debt for a country. I thailand I almost died getting on the road with my scooter, because of the other side of the road rule.

Just bite the bullet, switch, feel the pain, but then, feel that sweet sweet relieve.

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