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Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by BlueTemplar »

samstave wrote: post #5
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #2

To be clear, its a Factorio visualizer, not a client or anything. But its still super cool.

What will be very interesting, as stated in the article, is to see what the factorio creatives in the community figure out what to hack together based on this... I expect some sort of UE5 factorio-esque battle system... Imagine a game where you run a factory, and you haveto maintain it - while a bunch of PvP FPS shooter are running through your factory battleing it out and keep dmaging your supply lines and you have…

I mean, you can already do this right now in MP (if not in 3D) :

https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?p=560735#p560735

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by lastangryman »

Full disclosure didn't even read the article. But if you wanted to know what programming as a game would look like, play Factorio. Refactoring, decoupling, debugging, it's all there. I played it intensely for 3 weeks then had to force myself to put it down. It's a one of a kind game.

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by refulgentis »

DDSDev wrote: post #4

As a game dev, factorio has always been a title that I would absolutely love to see the original source code for. Also, for anyone who’s first question was “how is this legal”: “When asked about the legality of this whole endeavour, they showed great understanding and allowed the project to be released, provided it won’t be used for commercial purposes.”

Naively, I had the inverse question after reading that, how would this be illegal? Why must this be a labor of love? Use of Factorio IP seems limited to visual inspiration and file format parsing, and its clearly transformative (in the legal sense of the word)

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by BlueTemplar »

un_montagnard wrote: post #10

> When you don’t know how to code, you just put these nodes together, and if it doesn’t work you just keep adding more and more and become increasingly confused. Suspiciously similar to this factory game I’ve been playing recently. Cracked me up

That's nothing - LabView even has a similar colour scheme !

https://physics.highpoint.edu/~bbarlow/courses/phy2100/docum...

(Orange. And Gray Tiles show up in the 'GUI' view.)

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by jokoon »

Factorio is already quite CPU heavy so I don't want to imagine how it would behave in 3D. The factory size might be much smaller for this to be possible.

I don't really see the point of this, really, except a misunderstanding about game design, UX and programming in general. This thing might be possible with huge sacrifices, though, but I'm not very interested in making something in 3D "just because". I love 3D games, but a lot of games just don't translate properly to 3D.

Factorio is popular because its hardcore players make immense factories that usually reaches the limit of any CPU/GPU.

That's a bit why I dislike most of the gaming industry, because there are way too many people who aims for high quality 3D graphics without ever understanding software or hardware, and it shows, and it's a big step back for the industry as a whole, but GPU vendors are always happy for those people to push for high end graphics, but not people who like good gameplay.

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by detaro »

jokoon wrote: post #15

Factorio is already quite CPU heavy so I don't want to imagine how it would behave in 3D. The factory size might be much smaller for this to be possible. I don't really see the point of this, really, except a misunderstanding about game design, UX and programming in general. This thing might be possible with huge sacrifices, though, but I'm not very interested in making something in 3D "just because". I love 3D games…

... your comment doesn't particularly suggest that you have understood what this is about, while complaining that its authors don't understand things. For one thing, this is not the game and doesn't attempt to be.

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

jokoon wrote: post #15

Factorio is already quite CPU heavy so I don't want to imagine how it would behave in 3D. The factory size might be much smaller for this to be possible. I don't really see the point of this, really, except a misunderstanding about game design, UX and programming in general. This thing might be possible with huge sacrifices, though, but I'm not very interested in making something in 3D "just because". I love 3D games…

I mean, Satisfactory and Dyson Sphere Program run well.

Also, hypothetically, I don't think a 3D client would impact the simulation since Factorio (AFAIK) runs as a client + server. The 2D simulation would be unchanged.

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by gouggoug »

jokoon wrote: post #15

Factorio is already quite CPU heavy so I don't want to imagine how it would behave in 3D. The factory size might be much smaller for this to be possible. I don't really see the point of this, really, except a misunderstanding about game design, UX and programming in general. This thing might be possible with huge sacrifices, though, but I'm not very interested in making something in 3D "just because". I love 3D games…

Read the article.

This is just a fun pet project allowing you to visualize your base in 3D. Nothing less, nothing more.

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

samstave wrote: post #5
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #2

To be clear, its a Factorio visualizer, not a client or anything. But its still super cool.

What will be very interesting, as stated in the article, is to see what the factorio creatives in the community figure out what to hack together based on this... I expect some sort of UE5 factorio-esque battle system... Imagine a game where you run a factory, and you haveto maintain it - while a bunch of PvP FPS shooter are running through your factory battleing it out and keep dmaging your supply lines and you have…

Thats interesting, but I don't think the social dynamics of such a game would work. The situation is unstable, where either the builders can't keep up and quickly lose their factory (and probably quit) or the PvPers get surpressed and/or just ignore the factory.

This is kinda what happened in modded PvP Minecraft servers.

But there are already some team based "production line PvP" games like Mindustry and Foxhole.

Re: Alt-F4 #65 – Factorio visualizer in Unreal Engine 5

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Post by duskwuff »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #17
jokoon wrote: post #15

Factorio is already quite CPU heavy so I don't want to imagine how it would behave in 3D. The factory size might be much smaller for this to be possible. I don't really see the point of this, really, except a misunderstanding about game design, UX and programming in general. This thing might be possible with huge sacrifices, though, but I'm not very interested in making something in 3D "just because". I love 3D games…

I mean, Satisfactory and Dyson Sphere Program run well. Also, hypothetically, I don't think a 3D client would impact the simulation since Factorio (AFAIK) runs as a client + server. The 2D simulation would be unchanged.

> since Factorio (AFAIK) runs as a client + server

It does not. Factorio runs as a single process encompassing both simulation and rendering; the "headless server" just omits the rendering bits.

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