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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by gmerc »

evolve2k wrote: post #615
minimaxir wrote: post #322

Update from Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675214274627530754 > Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified lolwut. Quoting a post from Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/110640373859329500 > LOL this is not how you deal with "data scraping," this is how you deal with a catastrophic loss of system capacity. > You limit data scraping by blocking th…

Some are suggesting that the rise in scraping is a direct result from Twitter killing it’s free API, and that there are a range of organisations whos work relies on this information who have now had to resort to other means of attempting to get the same info.

There is no actual evidence of any of that though.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by gmerc »

nperez wrote: post #17
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #15

I refuse to believe that Twitter is so hammered by scrapers that it can’t even serve text content.

I don't think it's about servers getting hammered so much as it's about AI causing them to rethink the value of their data, then deciding user hostility is the best way to extract said value

And do tell us, what value would thar data actually have ?

I mean apart from maybe training a model to run influence operations on failing twitter?

In which world is the ‘data’ from twitter actually of any real world value with Chinchilla law pushing us from quantity to quality?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by bob_theslob646 »

yodsanklai wrote: post #351

Lot of Musk bashing in the comments but I'd love to have more technical insight behind this decision. For instance, what rate limiting policy is reasonable for such a service. What was the policy before this decision?

It's definitely not a data scraping decision because there are more effective ways to do this. It's something to do with the actual system itself and he wants to delay the truth.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by valval »

Tempat wrote: post #505
valval wrote: post #476

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I didn’t read the parent comment as making any particular judgement apart from the one that Islam in France is an unusual and unnecessary topic for Elon to be getting himself publicly involved in.

Unnecessary and unusual defined by whom? It’s okay to talk about anything on social media. It’s an important topic that he is shedding light on.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by weird-eye-issue »

tiedieconderoga wrote: post #519
user_named wrote: post #230

This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself. The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying. In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right. The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to its…

You'd think they would at least throw in an exponential backoff. Here, I'll help. to = 2; while (!request(timeout=to)) { to *= 2; } I'm available for a 6-week contract. $1M plus a ride in a Dragon capsule, cash up front.

If the request immediately returns an error then this would just call it in a loop with no delay

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by william- »

fotta wrote: post #447
loso wrote: post #130

I knew the end of the cheap money era would cause some businesses to be exposed but wow. We are basically in the middle of watching someone flush 44 billion down the drain. I could understand if it was a 600 posting limit. But a 600 viewing limit? wow. For example, NBA free agency just started. There are types of trades & signings being talked about. Just looking at that information I'm going past the 600 limit in ab…

FWIW I turned on notifications for Woj and Shams and I’m still getting them even though I’m rated limited too.

'Likes' tab on a profile also appears to be unaffected by rate-limit as well.

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Post by ProjectArcturis »

willis936 wrote: post #718
ProjectArcturis wrote: post #536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We'll give you $2M and a free OceanGate tour of the Titanic; $2M paid after the tour.

That's better than my current life insurance policy.

As far as you'll ever know, it is.

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

mirekrusin wrote: post #699
JauntTrooper wrote: post #605

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His offer was $54.20 in April 2022. That was a 38% premium to the market price immediately prior to his investment, which is attractive but not necessarily "always well above fair value" Twitter had traded above that price as recently as five months earlier, and had traded in the $60s and even $70s for most of 2021. Twitter's stock had cratered in early 2022 along with many other tech stocks (Facebook went from $330…

Twitter trades at $53.79 now.

Twitter does not trade right now.

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Post by arrrg »

sumeno wrote: post #633
bassman9000 wrote: post #619

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it was never profitable

Wrong, they had net profits 15 out of 18 quarters from 2018-2022 https://www.statista.com/statistics/299119/twitter-net-incom...

Also, probably fairly considered the cost of doing business, but that includes a substantial fine Twitter had to pay. And Covid troubles.

Just good to know for context.

I’m really not sure where this narrative is coming from. It‘s always so weird to me. Why be so wrong?

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Post by likeclockwork »

jerrygenser wrote: post #681
tikhonj wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were these apps made possible with VC money, or just made monopolizable ? In a different world, I could see most of these areas spawning smaller companies—on a slower timeline, sure—if VC-backed companies couldn't use massive up-front capital to suck the air out of the room. We could certainly have app-based taxis and restaurant delivery without Uber or DoorDash; hardware and bandwidth have gotten cheap enough that w…

They wouldn't have been able to support consumer scale without the up front capital. Otherwise they would need private betas and stuff but this would have not created the value of the same network effects and robust marketplaces.

A larger number of smaller firms each supporting the consumer scale they can sustainably and profitably support instead of selling below cost to capture the entire market then turning into hell when the bill comes due.
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