Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Tw…
What are your counterexamples from ancient history?
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By your logic, everyone with a paid subscription constitutes "a sea of bullshit" and the "real replies" are at the back of the line? That's the most hipster-esque description of Twitter I've ever heard. Underground Twitter, it's where the cool kids hang out and vape behind the gymnasium. This sounds more like unresolved personal grudges rather than an issue with the platform itself and the masses that use it. If you…
This is incorrect, Twitter was profitable 16 quarters of the last 20 quarters under the past leadership. Elon tried to rewrite some of Twitter's history, suggesting Twitter's financial problems were always this bad... but the financial situation only really became drastically worse the moment he bought Twitter, saddled it with 13 billion high interest rate debt, and advertisers fled, cutting Twitter's revenue in half…
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#473Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Tw…
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If you actually looked at the balance sheet of twitter before Elon took it over it was quite possible to make it profitable. It would have needed to cut cost and probably try and to boost its ad platform a bit more but well within the realm of possibilities. With the debt that Elon has saddled them with I doubt they will ever be profitable again without declaring bankruptcy.
> it was quite possible to make it profitable Without the $760M settlement, they'd have made about $270M in 2021[1]. [1] "2021 operating loss of $493 million, or an operating margin of -10%, includes a one-time litigation-related net charge of $766 million" - https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/twitter-announces-f...
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Comments moved thither. Thanks! Edit: actually, since that source doesn't appear to have a paywall workaround at the moment, I'm going to merge the thread back hither.
All moderation is better when accompanied by descriptions of going hither and thither.
edit: why the downvotes? I'm simply trying to engage in curious discussion. Apologies, I'm neurodivergent and I can't often discern between humor or not.
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#476I knew the end of the cheap money era would cause some businesses to be exposed but wow. We are basically in the middle of watching someone flush 44 billion down the drain. I could understand if it was a 600 posting limit. But a 600 viewing limit? wow. For example, NBA free agency just started. There are types of trades & signings being talked about. Just looking at that information I'm going past the 600 limit in ab…
I don't think this is because of the "end of cheap money" (I don't think this high interest rate environment will last that long) but just sheer incompetence by Musk and his staff. Elon has become increasingly erratic on the platform, he just tweeted recently a reply to a Tweet saying Islam would take over France. I don't know if he's always been like this or if the stories of his heavy ketamine usage are true and ta…
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I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…
Were these apps made possible with VC money, or just made monopolizable ? In a different world, I could see most of these areas spawning smaller companies—on a slower timeline, sure—if VC-backed companies couldn't use massive up-front capital to suck the air out of the room. We could certainly have app-based taxis and restaurant delivery without Uber or DoorDash; hardware and bandwidth have gotten cheap enough that w…
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Care to be more specific about the inaccurate parts and/or provide counterpoints (preferably with appropriate counter-evidence)?
“Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” This is the guy who’s had more than a few successful businesses now. A lot of smart people did want to work with him. Andrej Karpathy himself has said that Elon was very quick to pick up AI technically. That doesn’t sound like a “fundamentally dumb” guy to me
for the purpose of this thread saying “Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” is a statement of opinion, one that a growing number of people agree with
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You need to Google Elon musk and horse
I learned back in the 90s you don't google horse videos without safe search on, so no, I won't be taking your suggestion ;-)
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To some extent she is also probably there to play the same "say yes to Elon about some dumb idea and then get the team to implement a somewhat less dumb version and convince him it was his idea all along" game with him that Tesla and SpaceX leadership reportedly does.
I’ve always wondered what it’s like to work for a CEO where you simultaneously 1. can’t say no to him, and 2. can’t implement their hairbrained ideas without killing your product and then being blamed for it. I heard a rumor (who knows if it’s true) that in the early-ish days of Amazon, they had an entirely separate backend and frontend just for Bezos that would only display if his account was logged in. So when he a…
Most people cannot take radical ideas and don't understand that Elon Musk does not need to care and foes not care if he fails with Twitter after first trying to construct something with a social impact.
Elon Musk can fuck up every company he has and (as long as he doesn't get sued by angry investors) he will still be able to live a great, amazing life.
Edit: I get down votes but no replies. If you disagree, it would be beneficial to write why.