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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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This is expected with a faster rate of pushing features. Funny things is Twitter views are hiher than ever and it will be fixed quickly. (No reason to make a big deal out of it) But I think tests and refactor of the codebase will be necessary to increase their speed of innovation.

What substantial features have they been pushing? To me it looks like just a bunch of ways to limit and monetize their existing userbase.

10000 character longform tweets are now possible and 2 hour long videos.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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> So about the only thing they could do was issue multiple, parallel requests and hope that at least one of them was fast. lol nobody would do this to solve this problem because it doesn't even remotely solve it or give the appearance of solving it, if anything it's guaranteed to make things go slower

Google did this a long time ago. It’s more nuanced than you think. Two requests would be issued and the first acknowledged one cause the second to be cancelled. There was a public paper on this from Dean iirc and the method is a decade old.

I think the fundamental difference is that Google was using request hedging within their own network, sending the same request to two different internal servers in case one was slow, while Twitter appears to be sending the same request to the same server over the public Internet.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Someone pointed out that it looks like most of the workers that stayed at Twitter appear to be foreign born and are probably reliant on Twitter's sponsorship of their H1-B visa. https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7z5px/twitter-employees-on-...

Can sponsored H1-B visa holders look for another sponsorship to try to switch jobs, or would they get deported after resigning from "hardcore Twitter"?

They can look for other jobs but have to be in a new job within 60 days of leaving twitter with all the paperwork etc, given the market I would expect it is not as easy as say a year back even.

It is easier with other tech companies because unlike Musk they are/were generous severance time so those probably got 90+ days in severance time and the 60 days with say FAANG layoffs.

Also switching jobs can set them back on their path to permanent residency application timelines , depending on the country of citizenship that could be adding some years to continue on H1B and this dependency cycle so people close to their PR may try to stick it out

No one gets deported per se, most undocumented immigrants are people who fly over and overstay their visas, the USCIS will not check anything when they leave (by design so no one worries about leaving) however if they overstay the visa, it will be a tough time entering again , very likely to be rejected at the border or new visa application would be denied.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in Well, for one, this sounds just like yet another Elon-hater's comment. In _most_ cases, Elon's businesses are fairly successful, so a sarcastic "Elon's latest genius innovation" doesn't belong here. For se…

(A) He claims to be the CTO.

(B) Are you familiar with the expression “the buck stops here”?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Ooh, good idea. People can go build something against the Twitter API! Oh wait! I'm absolutely going to keep enjoying Musk's comeuppance. In this, consider me a traditionalist. As the Greek tragedies show, people have been enjoying the just punishment of hubris for thousands of years.

You can relish in the idea of Twitter having technical issues as if it hurts Elon in some tangible way, but the fact is he could pull the plug on it tomorrow… simply shut Twitter down entirely. Take the entire value of the company as a personal loss, and give everyone working there $1m for their service. And still be the wealthiest individual on the planet. He could do it another 5 times and still be a billionaire. Y…

This is actually not true. His wealth is propped up by trust. If everyone starts to believe that he's incompetent, stock prices will go down and loans will be more expensive. Also, he bought twitter by taking debt against his other assets.

No one can lose 40B and come out unscathed, not even Musk.

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About 80% of Twitter was laid off or quit. I think it's a reasonable supposition that a good number of those were critical personnel who felt they could get a better deal somewhere else.

This rhetoric is well past its peak. When the firings happened, people said twitter would crash in a week. It's been a long time since then, and twitter, for my very generic uses and purposes, has just gotten better. Demonizing past hard decisions at every unrelated point of difficulty has to be the worst kind of toxicity there is.

> Demonizing past hard decisions at every unrelated point of difficulty has to be the worst kind of toxicity there is.

It's not great, but that's really a bizarre thing to say. There are many many things far more toxic than that.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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About 80% of Twitter was laid off or quit. I think it's a reasonable supposition that a good number of those were critical personnel who felt they could get a better deal somewhere else.

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Apparently you do, given that we're posting in a thread where Twitter is self-imploding due to amateurish technical decisions foisted down by a God King.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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> One thing about having leadership that is known to lie about anything or everything, for any sort of imagined persona gain I will note that the few times I investigated claims of Elon lies they were not proper lies, either being misunderstood, misleading (which IS unethical, don't get me wrong), of indeterminate truth value (he said, she said type stuff), delusional optimism or actually true. Like journalists, Musk…

Which one of those did calling a cave-diving child rescuer a pedo fall under?

Imo: jumping to conclusions based on stupid stereotypes.

He should have lost that libel case imo as I do think he meant it.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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> One thing about having leadership that is known to lie about anything or everything, for any sort of imagined persona gain I will note that the few times I investigated claims of Elon lies they were not proper lies, either being misunderstood, misleading (which IS unethical, don't get me wrong), of indeterminate truth value (he said, she said type stuff), delusional optimism or actually true. Like journalists, Musk…

I don't want to quibble about semantics, but habitual behavior of this sort just falls under the category of "liar" for me.

I think it's an important distinction to make. Because it does means that you can actually infer true things from his statements (or a journalists statements, as news orgs do this kind of "lying" a lot), unlike with a habitual liar.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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> One thing about having leadership that is known to lie about anything or everything, for any sort of imagined persona gain I will note that the few times I investigated claims of Elon lies they were not proper lies, either being misunderstood, misleading (which IS unethical, don't get me wrong), of indeterminate truth value (he said, she said type stuff), delusional optimism or actually true. Like journalists, Musk…

There's a very well known case of Musk making the same claim multiple years in a row, with it being false every single time. I prefer to assume the best out of people, but when someone is that obviously wrong that many times with that much personal gain to come from it, I can't believe that man as smart as he is would also be that misled.

This is the guy who still thinks a Martian colony is a good idea and that the woke mind virus is one of the most dangerous threats to society. I'm not sure he's very grounded in reality at all when it comes to the future.
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