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Care to be more specific about the inaccurate parts and/or provide counterpoints (preferably with appropriate counter-evidence)?
Why? He’s not the one making claims. Do you have any idea how this works?
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#482It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?
There will be no observable long term impact from Reddit banning third party apps. Only a few power users cared about it and no one cared about them.
I think this is a pretty naïve viewpoint - just look at what the mods of e.g. /r/iama announced today.
On social network websites, the vast majority of people are only lurkers, a relatively few people commenting, even fewer people posting, and fewer people still who want to put in the effort to build up a community.
Reddit's soul sits in those handcrafted small communities, the big ones sure will stay around and be popular, but there's lots of other places where one can get 5 second cat videos, and memes.
This event eroded a lot of the remaining trust between moderators and the admins, and while that can feel like it's not relevant to normal users, over time this will cause fewer people to be interested in starting a community on Reddit.
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#483It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?
I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…
Uber and doordash yes, they operate a physical business with large costs per customer transaction. Twitter and reddit? No, I disagree. Those businesses should be relatively cheap to host (compared to ad revenue) with focused management and engineering. The only thing about them that could cost a lot is moderation, and twitter should have followed reddit’s lead to leave that to a volunteer brigade. If twitter and reddit lost money, it is because they were not being run efficiently, and they weren’t being run efficiently because the way to show investors they were creating value is launching a bunch of hyped but mostly pointless features and by having a high burn rate.
New reddit launched 5 years ago, and many people still prefer using old reddit. Twitter also did not add any feature in the past 5 years the majority of its users cared about losing. If most of your users are fine with giving up everything you’ve built in the past 5 years, and you have a large staff of engineers, then you’ve not been running the business effectively.
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Which Twitter replacement are people moving to (edit:looks like Bluesky if they can keep the servers up)? I’m a big fan of Elon and what he’s built so I wasn’t planning on leaving, but can’t even use it now. Mastodon still seems too complicated to get the masses on. Where will non-tech folks go?
I created a Mastodon account yesterday before I even knew about this and it was surprisingly easy and user-friendly. The big thing it's missing, for me, is a way to find the Mastodon accounts for people you follow on Twitter. If more of the AI/ML community switched to Mastodon, I wouldn't have any need for Twitter.
There used to be tools for this but they went by the wayside with the Twitter api changes.
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#485I knew the end of the cheap money era would cause some businesses to be exposed but wow. We are basically in the middle of watching someone flush 44 billion down the drain. I could understand if it was a 600 posting limit. But a 600 viewing limit? wow. For example, NBA free agency just started. There are types of trades & signings being talked about. Just looking at that information I'm going past the 600 limit in ab…
It's even funnier when Elon confirmed that scrolling through a tweet counts as a read.
Isn't that obvious though? What else would count as a read?
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It’s wild. Used to checking it frequently which any social media company would love, but can’t even scroll the feed this morning as I hit the rate limit just drinking coffee and catching up. The good thing is this will make me spend far less time on social media since it was the last one I had on my phone.
Wow, so maybe Musk was society's savior we didn't want to need. Although, maybe if Twitter was no more, people would begrudgingly go back to FB for their doom scrolling needs.
Between Musk and u/spez, I recovered at least 2 hours a day of normally wasted time.
I've read books, like actual paper ones. Spent some time making a simply 2-d space shooter, just for fun. Spent more time engaged with people I care about. Turns out social media is the least social thing ever and basically sucks.
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“Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” This is the guy who’s had more than a few successful businesses now. A lot of smart people did want to work with him. Andrej Karpathy himself has said that Elon was very quick to pick up AI technically. That doesn’t sound like a “fundamentally dumb” guy to me
a lot of smart people fell for Elizabeth Holmes charm and put their money on Theranos for the purpose of this thread saying “Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy” is a statement of opinion, one that a growing number of people agree with
It's not a statement of opinion, it's a bitter resentful raving.
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#488This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself. The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying. In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right. The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to its…
> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in. Hey, just as an FYI, this comment doesn't make any sense. Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress?
If it doesn't make any sense, what's your analysis? At least they tried to come up with some technical explanation and incite my curiosity, rather than dismiss it outright.
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#489This is just insane. He really wanna take this app to zero users. Can't believe there exists people who think Elon is smart.
Some people will stick to their priors through thick and thin. I've learned to just enjoy watching the blue check mark crowd contort to whatever is the new thing they agree with Elon about and then vehemently back it up with other reasons too. Pretty sure a lot of the Twitter accounts that are famous because he interacts with them started out as liberals who liked EVs and are now tweeting about how they're worried about too few white babies
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> They could even ultimately challenge Reddit. Frankly I feel Google would be more motivated to challenge Reddit. Since so many of Google’s search results go to Reddit, they might as well try to take over that part of the web rather than leaving it in the hands of mercurial leadership of Reddit. The only problem is possible retaliation from Reddit and potential antitrust problems if other similar sites feel threatene…
Except Google seems completely incompetent at creating new products (though maybe YT shorts is the exception that proves the point) and very bad at handling community
I wouldn't say YT shorts is a good example of a well executed product. They all seem shit.