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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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16 hours? If you're scrolling 100 tweets/min, you'd hit the unverified user limit within 6 minutes, and the verified user limit within an hour

I don't understand, are you actually reading 100 tweets/minute, or just endlessly scrolling through random data for thumb exercise? When you make the good faith assumption that people are actually reading through the content, the numbers start to seem a bit more rational.

I don’t believe assuming every tweet is read in a feed is good faith. There isn’t a single social media app that I use where I am not quickly scrolling past nonsense all the time.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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If Meta were smart, they'd immediately shift away from their Metaverse nonsense and use this as a massive opportunity to do things they are pretty good at (hate them or love them.) I know they are working on a Twitter competitor, but they need to find a way to help get the followers they once had back, if they were to switch. They could even ultimately challenge Reddit. I know that would not be an ideal outcome, but…

> They could even ultimately challenge Reddit. Frankly I feel Google would be more motivated to challenge Reddit. Since so many of Google’s search results go to Reddit, they might as well try to take over that part of the web rather than leaving it in the hands of mercurial leadership of Reddit. The only problem is possible retaliation from Reddit and potential antitrust problems if other similar sites feel threatene…

Except Google seems completely incompetent at creating new products (though maybe YT shorts is the exception that proves the point) and very bad at handling community

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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That seems… implausible? They used to be profitable; clearly at that point advertising revenue must have greatly exceeded infra cost. Now, I’d buy that it’s down, but surely not by _that_ much.

But there are now big debt payments that didn't exist before, from the massively leveraged buyout.

Oh, sure, I’d be amazed if it’s profitable today. But I understood the person I was replying to to mean that they were throttling to control infra cost, which makes no sense, as revenue from people using twitter (ads) must surely more than pay for the infra; effectively shutting down twitter won’t make the debt costs go away and would clearly be a net financial negative.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?

I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…

I think this is going to be known as "the Millennial subsidized lifestyle era." Not that it was exclusively used by Millennials, but it's largely what they grew up with.

AirBnb was maybe the worst of the bunch, because it has such a dramatic negative externality on housing markets. Entire areas of Barcelona have essentially no real residents because even those who didn't sell to AirBnb investors found it unlivable with drunk tourists screaming around the apartment buildings at 3 am. I stopped using AirBnb because it was making it enjoyable to visit other cities, but destroying my own. It's also a lot more expensive for fewer amenities.

Spotify hasn't made any money yet. I wonder if they're going to start charging $30/month. Time for the return of CDs, vinyl, MP3s?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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This is going to hit their impression numbers really hard? And probably avg. CTR as well since most of those hardcore users will not be able to see most of tweets. I guess Elon probably decided this something like "ok, 99% of those users are reading less than 300 tweets a day! If it's more than that, then those are all bots! Why don't we block them? It will save API cost a lot!"

Yes it will

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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16 hours? If you're scrolling 100 tweets/min, you'd hit the unverified user limit within 6 minutes, and the verified user limit within an hour

I don't understand, are you actually reading 100 tweets/minute, or just endlessly scrolling through random data for thumb exercise? When you make the good faith assumption that people are actually reading through the content, the numbers start to seem a bit more rational.

Did you actually read the tweet that you replied to?

> "I'm certain I scroll at least 100 tweets/minute."

Many Twitter users, including literally the person you are in conversation with, scroll through dozens/hundreds of tweets a minute.

Not sure if you're actually used Twitter before, but many tweets are only a line or two of text, and it doesn't take more than a second to process them.

Additionally, if you're quickly scrolling through replies or someone's history to try to find something, it can render hundreds of tweets in a matter of seconds.

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