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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

housemusicfan wrote: post #295
rsynnott wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you use Twitter? Even at the best of times, you learn to flip though fairly quickly skimming over the nonsense, and since the ascension of naughty ol’ mr car bluetick replies get promoted to the front of the queue, so you have to scroll past a sea of bullshit to get to the real replies. Twitter with 600 tweets a day is clearly unusable. That’s one large thread, and you’ll scroll past most of it anyway.

By your logic, everyone with a paid subscription constitutes "a sea of bullshit" and the "real replies" are at the back of the line? That's the most hipster-esque description of Twitter I've ever heard. Underground Twitter, it's where the cool kids hang out and vape behind the gymnasium. This sounds more like unresolved personal grudges rather than an issue with the platform itself and the masses that use it. If you…

This is incorrect, Twitter was profitable 16 quarters of the last 20 quarters under the past leadership. Elon tried to rewrite some of Twitter's history, suggesting Twitter's financial problems were always this bad... but the financial situation only really became drastically worse the moment he bought Twitter, saddled it with 13 billion high interest rate debt, and advertisers fled, cutting Twitter's revenue in half. Neither firing 80% of employees nor shutting down multiple datacenters & skipping rent can compensate for this.

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Post by FrankWilhoit »

user_named wrote: post #293

Reminder that Elon didn't even intend to buy Twitter He wanted to sell ~$2.5 Billion Tesla stock at all-time highs without causing the stock price to significantly deflate, so he used the Twitter purchase suggestion as a cover. He did similar pump and dump schemes with crypto - like Dogecoin - but because Elon is fundamentally a dumb guy, he did the extraordinarily stupid thing of signing a purchase agreement with Tw…

What are your counterexamples from ancient history?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by ncallaway »

minimaxir wrote: post #61
TillE wrote: post #54

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I think a ton of users will hit 600 "posts read" really quickly, if that's what they're measuring. Refresh your timeline, load 20 new tweets. Tap a tweet, load 10 replies, etc.

Even if Twitter loads 20 tweets, it doesn't mean you've read 20 tweets. This is not semantics, as tweet impressions are a separate metric Twitter tracks and would more intuitively represent reads. Unless Twitter engineering did some malicious compliance for Elon.

The bullshit reason given for this was to “prevent bots and scrapers”, so I strongly suspect they’d be using API responses, rather than impressions.

Especially so considering how quickly some people are reporting the rate limiting impacts them

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Post by pphysch »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #223
pphysch wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah my limit hit after 20-25 minutes of total screen time. What a mess.

/s or not /s? 25 minutes seems like plenty to me. But I also have HN noprocrast enabled.

I also have a Twitter screen time limit, just not for 20 minutes.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by mk89 »

In the era of "if it's free, you're the product", I have to admit that this is a strange move.

While I personally would never pay 8$/month for the blue check (who cares?), I can understand that someone might want to pay to be up-to-date. 600 posts per day in some cases might not be enough, considering how easy it is to navigate through tweets in an hour or so. However, I think this is the wrong move.

I would have added the possibility to monetize with tweets, only accessible to blue checks - like premium content. This way, you pay the content creator and who wants to access special content will have to pay for it (with the subscription first, eventually with micropayments). But never block access to free content, never ever!

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Post by coldcode »

summerlight wrote: post #162

This is going to hit their impression numbers really hard? And probably avg. CTR as well since most of those hardcore users will not be able to see most of tweets. I guess Elon probably decided this something like "ok, 99% of those users are reading less than 300 tweets a day! If it's more than that, then those are all bots! Why don't we block them? It will save API cost a lot!"

Elon is fixing Twitter by reducing the amount of ads people see. Brilliant strategy.

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Post by djbusby »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #315
stubybubs wrote: post #261

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I'm not really sure what she thought was going to happen. There is no way that Musk was going to stop making decisions, especially about content moderation, which is really the main concern of advertisers. If he wants it to be his kind of speech over the concerns of advertisers, that's what it's going to be, and she has no path to success. I've heard Elon really seems like he's listening and that he's actually going…

> not really sure what she thought was going to happen Fat severance package, a post-termination book deal and international name recognition?

I'd do it for those reasons too. How much fun to watch the implosion from inside!

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by cududa »

minimaxir wrote: post #322

Update from Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675214274627530754 > Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified lolwut. Quoting a post from Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/110640373859329500 > LOL this is not how you deal with "data scraping," this is how you deal with a catastrophic loss of system capacity. > You limit data scraping by blocking th…

A cool so I get about 3 more minutes of looking at tweets

My guess is he got rate limited himself after a few hours as a verified user so he’s already upping it

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Post by pydry »

dbish wrote: post #172
loso wrote: post #130

I knew the end of the cheap money era would cause some businesses to be exposed but wow. We are basically in the middle of watching someone flush 44 billion down the drain. I could understand if it was a 600 posting limit. But a 600 viewing limit? wow. For example, NBA free agency just started. There are types of trades & signings being talked about. Just looking at that information I'm going past the 600 limit in ab…

It’s wild. Used to checking it frequently which any social media company would love, but can’t even scroll the feed this morning as I hit the rate limit just drinking coffee and catching up. The good thing is this will make me spend far less time on social media since it was the last one I had on my phone.

If you asked me a year ago I wouldnt have guessed that raising interest rates would be the cure to doomscrolling. But here we are.
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