Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by minimaxir » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:42 PM UTC

TillE wrote: post #54

minimaxir wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From comments and personal experience, it is incredibly likely Elon screwed up the rollout and the "600 posts/day" isn't accurate and is triggering much, much sooner than expected.

I think a ton of users will hit 600 "posts read" really quickly, if that's what they're measuring. Refresh your timeline, load 20 new tweets. Tap a tweet, load 10 replies, etc.

Even if Twitter loads 20 tweets, it doesn't mean you've read 20 tweets.

This is not semantics, as tweet impressions are a separate metric Twitter tracks and would more intuitively represent reads.

Unless Twitter engineering did some malicious compliance for Elon.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

#62

Post by ericzawo » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:42 PM UTC

Why are tech elite types continuing to be supportive of this guy? Never seen $44 billion get lit on fire so plainly.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by lonk11 » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:43 PM UTC

At first I read it as a limit on the number of posts per day you can create, which seemed very generous. Realized that it was the number of posts you can read which is unreasonably low.

Maybe it's a test to see how many power users would convert to verified?

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by sarcasmatwork » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:44 PM UTC

"following temporary limits"

So there is a targeted attack on twitter?

Long term, it would kill Twitter which is the opposite of what Elon has said before about being the town square.

Time will tell.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by TechBro8615 » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:45 PM UTC

r721 wrote: post #60

I wonder if there will be a counter somewhere in the corner: "You had read 95% of today's quota".

@elonmusk: Good idea! Rolling out next week, along with payments to creators and Tesla FSD!

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by ulrischa » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:45 PM UTC

For many official goverment channels public Tweets was the only reason to stay in twitter. In many countries (e.g. in europe) the information from these organisations need to be public by law. Could be the turning point for many agencies etc. to leave twitter

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by simplicio » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:46 PM UTC

Hard to imagine limiting the ad views of your non-paying users is going to help fix your revenue short-fall.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by HWR_14 » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:46 PM UTC

epistasis wrote: post #56

If Musk had shut down the site completely, he could have had the same effect without looking like he was completely incompetent. Pretty odd to see somebody burn up all their public goodwill, at the cost of billions of dollars. The man must be hurting internally, there's no other explanation for such self destructive behavior.

I doubt it's a reaction to him hurting internally. I think it's a consequence of being disconnected from the rest of the world. I think he thinks what he's doing is both right and popular, and in his bubble that's true.

Leaving aside completely that one of the luxuries you can buy as a billionaire is that you can develop an impermeable bubble, I've seen lots of people do similar actions at a smaller scale.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by slowhadoken » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:47 PM UTC

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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by filleduchaos » Sat, Jul 01, 2023, 5:48 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #61

TillE wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a ton of users will hit 600 "posts read" really quickly, if that's what they're measuring. Refresh your timeline, load 20 new tweets. Tap a tweet, load 10 replies, etc.

Even if Twitter loads 20 tweets, it doesn't mean you've read 20 tweets. This is not semantics, as tweet impressions are a separate metric Twitter tracks and would more intuitively represent reads. Unless Twitter engineering did some malicious compliance for Elon.

Personally I wouldn't assume that the app that's been demonstrated to count "views" in extremely sketchy ways has suddenly started caring about the distinction between loading and reading a post. Especially when the intent is pretty obviously to herd users towards subscribing.