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Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by minimaxir »

filleduchaos wrote: post #70
minimaxir wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if Twitter loads 20 tweets, it doesn't mean you've read 20 tweets. This is not semantics, as tweet impressions are a separate metric Twitter tracks and would more intuitively represent reads. Unless Twitter engineering did some malicious compliance for Elon.

Personally I wouldn't assume that the app that's been demonstrated to count "views" in extremely sketchy ways has suddenly started caring about the distinction between loading and reading a post. Especially when the intent is pretty obviously to herd users towards subscribing.

Fair counterpoint: Tweet views are a vanity metric (which is why Elon likes them), but tweet impressions are a required metric for advertisers to track ad CTR and any shenanigans there will actually kill Twitter.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by x86x87 »

loso wrote: post #130

I knew the end of the cheap money era would cause some businesses to be exposed but wow. We are basically in the middle of watching someone flush 44 billion down the drain. I could understand if it was a 600 posting limit. But a 600 viewing limit? wow. For example, NBA free agency just started. There are types of trades & signings being talked about. Just looking at that information I'm going past the 600 limit in ab…

Stop complaining or it's going to be 600 characters or less! Including the headers for your requests! /s

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by epistasis »

HWR_14 wrote: post #68
epistasis wrote: post #56

If Musk had shut down the site completely, he could have had the same effect without looking like he was completely incompetent. Pretty odd to see somebody burn up all their public goodwill, at the cost of billions of dollars. The man must be hurting internally, there's no other explanation for such self destructive behavior.

I doubt it's a reaction to him hurting internally. I think it's a consequence of being disconnected from the rest of the world. I think he thinks what he's doing is both right and popular, and in his bubble that's true. Leaving aside completely that one of the luxuries you can buy as a billionaire is that you can develop an impermeable bubble, I've seen lots of people do similar actions at a smaller scale.

This is really classic divorced guy stuff. Even if he is showing a stiff upper lip, this behavior seems very transparent.

A bubble would probably manifest a bit differently, from my very limited experience. The billionaires of the past that did this had a lot more dignity as they fell apart, because they were at least more private and not trying to put on a public show.

But this is all arm-chair psychology, who knows what's actually going on. I believe none of the public statements from the PayPal mafia, it's all meant to influence public opinion and the statements have little bearing on their true reasoning.

Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode

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Post by rideontime »

minimaxir wrote: post #61
TillE wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a ton of users will hit 600 "posts read" really quickly, if that's what they're measuring. Refresh your timeline, load 20 new tweets. Tap a tweet, load 10 replies, etc.

Even if Twitter loads 20 tweets, it doesn't mean you've read 20 tweets. This is not semantics, as tweet impressions are a separate metric Twitter tracks and would more intuitively represent reads. Unless Twitter engineering did some malicious compliance for Elon.

If the point is to stop scrapers, they would _have_ to use “tweets fetched” as the metric.
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