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A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

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Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

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post #31

So this doesn't even factor in people that are living togheter, like in a registered partnership (that is how we call it in the Netherlands) or other form?

I'm given to understand that various US states have less recognition of common law relationships (as we call that in the Anglo-Saxon world) than e.g. Canada or European countries.

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

#42
post #6

The trend of less education means less marriage is interesting. I think that tells me the root cause is that 25% of 40 year olds are not financially attractive mates. I think this speaks to a broader trend of men not being able to meet the traditional expectations of the breadwinner in an increasingly precarious economy.

less education? the US has never been more educated.

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

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post #5

I've never met a person of the gender I'm attracted to that would reciprocate the selflessness and empathy that I joyously offer potential partners. I would rather keep my self-respect than settle for someone who won't meet me on my level.

Hey bud. Just an observation. You come off as a lot less joyful and selfless than you think you are.

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Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

#44
post #27

I think marriage is overrated. Just a construct of society. You can have kids with a partner, but really no reason to formalize it with “marriage”. I guess there are tax reasons though that make it more logical though.

I agree in principle, but getting married was a five figure a year tax reduction back when I did it.

Like it or not, the government unfairly taxes single people.

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

#45
post #6

The trend of less education means less marriage is interesting. I think that tells me the root cause is that 25% of 40 year olds are not financially attractive mates. I think this speaks to a broader trend of men not being able to meet the traditional expectations of the breadwinner in an increasingly precarious economy.

>25% of 40 year olds are not financially attractive mates. Is this a peculiarity of the US? Income was never an issue when i got the hots for someone...especially when things turned into long-term commitment. In fact, quite the opposite.

How many times have you married that person you "had the hots for" assuming you are a woman?

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

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post #6

The trend of less education means less marriage is interesting. I think that tells me the root cause is that 25% of 40 year olds are not financially attractive mates. I think this speaks to a broader trend of men not being able to meet the traditional expectations of the breadwinner in an increasingly precarious economy.

Maybe it also has to do with the % of females that are desirable to marry?

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

#47

In beehives, the drones -- correction, workers -- are sterile. This maximizes returns on capital at quarter and even decade timescales.

(I assume you mean the worker bees) You think it's intentional of the neoliberal beehive? First driving women into the workforce doubling profits and then turn people into worker bees without any future. Perhaps the suicide rates once they grow old and retire into poverty will also have some economic benefit. Of course it's swarm intelligence, hard to understand the logic of some bee or ant in a colony, it won't be a conscious decision.

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not entirely sure - it would be interesting to break down the cohort of the 78% of never-marrieds who live alone. Presumedly, they are single or not in a serious relationship, which might indicate that there’s a deeper societal and cultural problem than just marriage.

Yes there is ... It's pretty obvious to the younger generations, we are living in an age with the largest wealth inequality in the history of humanity. Tie in the fact that the average salary can't support the 'traditional' lifestyle, and the desire for 'traditional' dating expectations. And now you have men checking out for one of many reasons, for example: not making enough with the right type of career. And person…

In the history of humanity? That reads to me like you are not very familiar with history. We are probably living in the period of the least wealth inequality in all of human history.

The typical “poor” person living in the USA lives in the lap of luxury (in terms of clothing, food, shelter, etc) compared to a serf in medieval Europe, a peasant under the Assyrians, etc. I mean, how many poor people have running water, electricity, Air Conditioning, etc.? Can you imagine a poor person from 3,000 years ago seeing that and then hearing talk about wealth inequality? It would sound insane.

Cesar Augustus was worth $4.6 Trillion. That’s a pretty huge wealth disparity to a common person back then. What about Mansa Musa? His wealth was so vast that nobody even knows how to put a number to it. Do you think the common people under him were rich?

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

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post #27

I think marriage is overrated. Just a construct of society. You can have kids with a partner, but really no reason to formalize it with “marriage”. I guess there are tax reasons though that make it more logical though.

Meh, I thought this in my early 20s.

But if nothing else, marriage is an agreement that you’re not just gonna nope out when there’s adversity or when something better comes along. It’s a powerful mutual gesture.

If you aren’t compelled by that idea, there’s someone out there who will. Maybe you have to dump your current 6-year-long situationship to go look for them, but hey, it’s not like you’re married. ;)

Re: A record-high share of 40-year-olds in the U.S. have never been married

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The chart is just another "wtf happened in 1971" moment. https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/ What happened in 1971? The Nixon Shock, which is when the dollar stopped being convertible to gold after it became evident that the US did not have the gold it claimed to have.

I don't think it's purely economic. I think birth control plus legalized abortion changed relationships, and those happened at roughly the same time. (Roe v. Wade was 1972, IIRC.)

The decline of religion also probably plays a role here. You'd have a hard time blaming that on the end of the gold standard.

I mean, sure, economics almost certainly plays a role. But it's not the sole cause.

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