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Don't forget to avoid reliance on a private company's app store while you're at it! You'd need to convince people to side-load an app from a government website, or install a government app store.

Would you trust a government App Store?

Depends on the government. Where I live, yes. In many other countries, no.

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I don't see why they can't do both, have an official website (with RSS), and automatically share the links on Twitter.

School systems at least have systems to communicate with parents via automated messages that are delivered via text, emails and voice mail.

Or Remind, or ClassDojo, or Parentsquare, or whatever our school district goes with next year. I think they could all do SMS delivery, but none of them got it quite right. The apps are all buggy too. Various updates are often squirreled away on Twitter or "$schoolname Parents" Facebook group.

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Can we now finally go back to the pre-Facebook, pre-Twitter Internet, before we centralized everything within a few corporations?

Exactly this, I’m happy of what’s happening with twitter and Reddit and the likes, maybe it’s the reality slap the users needed to get back to smaller communities.

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"Several hundred organizations (maybe more) were scraping Twitter data extremely aggressively, to the point where it was affecting the real user experience. What should we do to stop that? I’m open to ideas." https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674898695534309378 "1. Scraping is already disallowed by T&C. 2. The scraping orgs dgaf & mask their IPs through proxy servers or through orgs that appear legit. For example,…

> 3. We absolutely will take legal action against those who stole our data… What does “our” refer to here? Does Twitter (i.e. musk) own the data in any sense? Or does he mean it as “we the people’s data”? Very off-putting to read that sentence. Obviously he’s trying to monetize the user generated data in this LLM rush as other avenues to monetizations have flopped.

I imagine part of the terms of using Twitter give the corporation ownership of comments. As is their right.

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This also seems like another attempt to combat web scraping.

They put search behind login and now tweets themselves to try to push people to use their API. Twitter is still the bigest source used in public sentiment analysis and it's still relatively easy to scrape with login so this just shifts everything to grey/dark markets. The essentially means public researchers, students w/e lost access while dark market value increases significantly.

So, as per character, this just empowers corporations and punishes public. Hopefully this means the upcoming end of Twitter.

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And if it's not Google it's Microsoft. Which is, and I can't believe I'm saying this, the lesser of two evils at this point. There's a 2003 me staring through a time travel portal absolutely aghast that 2023 me is saying something like this.

Microsoft has always been an apex predator, like a lion or maybe a hippo. It can end you in a single bite, but at least you know what you’re dealing with. Google is more like a malaria carrying species of mosquito. Little bites that you barely notice, but in aggregate are actually much more dangerous. I know the metaphor is a bit stretched but even in the late 90’d it was clear what Microsoft did. Google has gone fro…

Hippos aren't predators.

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It's extremely rough around the edges but getting into fediverse content (mastodon, kbin, lemmy, etc) has been extremely rewarding to me. It's like twitter and reddit but 15 years ago (and by that I mostly mean it's janky and full of bugs. Just like the web was 15 years ago!)

For me the main barrier is that I want to have portable/roaming control over my IDENTITY , even if the content hosting is (for now) entirely through a system administered by someone else. If I control the identity, I can at least keep local copies and rehost/repost content later. Instead, it feels like the current Fediverse demands that I make a blind choice to entrust not merely a copy of my content but also my whol…

Didn’t the guy who founded the web basically make something like that?

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This is how death spirals work. Twitter was treading water a year ago. Taking on lots of debt caused mass layoffs, worrying people about site stability and making them investigate other platforms. A lot of bad tweets scared away advertisers, causing more layoffs and desperation. Signed-in users engage more, so make all users signed-in users (no logical fallacies here).

I’m learning more about the Twitter situation slowly. Why did it take on massive debt?

Because Elon was forced to overpay for Twitter and getting that much money is difficult.

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Taking into consideration how much Spez thinks of himself as a Musk, we should be expecting Reddit to implement the same feature soon. We are just sitting by the sideline watching as the internet we all loved slowly dies in the hands of greedy corporations. This is truly a sad state of affairs.

I got flagged by dang the other day for calling spez some kind of insult. It bothered me.

Spez is inarguably incompetent as a leader and I realize that if I saw him in public, I would point and laugh.

Truly. I understand the fear of social media companies dealing with data scraping for rivals to run AI models, but it has been truly fumbled from a messaging perspective.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Elon Musk wrote: Several hundred organizations (maybe more) were scraping Twitter data extremely aggressively, to the point where it was affecting the real user experience. What should we do to stop that? I’m open to ideas. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674887204580073474

They can still scrap it but now with an account cookie? Also, what’s the problem of scraping it, it’s just like browsing systematically.
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