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Post by berkle4455 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #78
berkle4455 wrote: post #37

You can blame this all you want on evil social media corporations, but the reality is AI companies scraping public conversations to feed LLMs are the current reason for walls being erected around every single garden. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, LinkedIn.. all heading toward full walled garden mode to prevent scrapers from repurposing data and profiting off their systems. Federated systems are a nice idea, b…

AI companies is a stupid argument. If the AI company operates legitimately, then TOS prohibiting using the content for LLM training purposes would be enough. If the AI company doesn’t want to play ball then restricting public access won’t stop them, they’ll just register accounts en-masse and scrape that way.

TOS does not apply if the data is not behind a login

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Post by pessimizer »

ronsor wrote: post #398
pessimizer wrote: post #264

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I assume that if HN ever caused them any serious PR damage, they'd pull the plug that day. It's always been made clear that it's a single-server site sitting somewhere that was written as a hobby a long time ago. That kind of nothing cost they're willing to take on indefinitely, but not any serious bad media cost. I've always felt that was the reason for the heavy moderation, especially as compared to the anarchic ea…

Based on the content that gets posted, I don't think there's a way for HN to cause serious PR damage to them.

That's not independent of the moderation, though. Topics that invite heated discussion but aren't absolutely necessary to talk about on HN get nuked very quickly. If it would be absurd for it not to be discussed here, it gets a pinned note from dang telling everyone to behave, and gets carefully monitored to make sure it doesn't degenerate into a riot.

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Post by poisonarena »

nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

> I guess I'm done with Twitter.

people been saying this for a decade +

you'll be back

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by goku12 »

marcooliv wrote: post #381

Why is so terrible to just open an account? what a drama you're using a service that costs money to run. Everyone here likes to be highly paid but keep complaining for those things. maybe I'm missing something here. Use temp email, create an account and that's it.

If that's the way they (twitter in this case) wanted it, they should have started it that way. May be then, governments and individuals wouldn't have started sharing important information on a platform that requires their audience to forgo their anonymity.

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Post by ChatGTP »

__loam wrote: post #179
ChatGTP wrote: post #145

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Funnily enough I always respected him for keeping it login free. I thought this was about his town / square free speech vision. Now I can never see myself going near the site again. Oh well.

I don't know how anyone can respect a man who calls a professional rescue working trying to save kids from a cave flood a pedophile. Musk has always been a piece of shit.

I don’t mean I respect him, just a particular decision.

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Post by telotortium »

firecall wrote: post #410
twicetwice wrote: post #332

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fwiw, Bluesky is fully federated (well, will be, it's in development, but it's well on the way, they just launched the federation sandbox the other day), and identities are portable, so it shouldn't be susceptible to the same dynamics as twitter. Plus, the dev team has stated a number of times that "the company is a potential future adversary" is one of the principles they keep in mind when designing the protocol. Pl…

The issue I see is that the Tech Community, that form and influence opinions, is going to be cautious about investing time in another private social media company. Mastodon has the mind share already as the de facto Twitter replacement. Bluesky looks suspiciously like it’s dead in the water.

> Mastodon has the mind share already as the de facto Twitter replacement.

It did, until it got infested with far-left refugees who started banning entire instances whose users their have political disagreements with. Between that and the lack of ease of signing up or setting up your own instance, Mastodon is not taking over from Twitter anytime soon, although it has formed its own community that I'm sure will continue to use it. If Mastodon becomes even as popular as Tumblr now, let alone at its peak, I would consider that a surprising success.

As for the "tech community", some hackers did go over to Mastodon. That's great, but they didn't cause IRC or mailing lists to take over the world back in the day, and Mastodon is even more technically dysfunctional than those (making it so easy to completely block instances is a major issue). Call me when VCs start moving en masse to Mastodon.

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Post by leereeves »

gbear605 wrote: post #199
tourmalinetaco wrote: post #171

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If anything, nature is healing. I’ve noticed at least 1 community return to forums due to all of this ( https://mholdschool.com/ ), and while unfortunately AFAIK there isn’t any good FLOSS software for it, it’s certainly a start.

PhpBB is GPLv2, and it still works just fine. Discourse is also GPL, if you’re looking for a more modern look. There are a number of others too ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_s... )

Does PhpBB have an adaptive layout? I've used several older forums that require scrolling sideways because they don't.
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