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Post by goku12 »

kgbcia wrote: post #399

Well Usenet, RSS, and mailing list are there to use

These services have the following (non-exhaustive) list of problems:

- They are hard to use for regular people due to lack of modern and intuitive clients.

- They are somewhat hard to discover and learn. For example, browsers don't indicate the presence of RSS feeds without plugins anymore.

- Security and encryption are an after-thought, if any

Almost all of the above are due to the stagnation of their development (protocols and clients) due to emergence of easy-to-use, but centralized alternatives. They are not good modern options as they are now. But they are good models to build more modern alternatives on.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

kibwen wrote: post #292
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does fediverse intend to pay for server/developer cost? For new technologies many smart people work for free as long as it excites them and when it just comes to maintenance and fixing bugs it wouldn't be cheap for any technology with so many moving parts. Also, early adopters donate with much higher probability than when the masses arrive.

Coming of age in the late 90s/early 00s we had plenty of forums to choose from, hosted by hobbyists, with nary a monetization scheme in sight. And this was in the era when the tech was far less accessible and the hardware far more expensive. Sure, maybe a modern $5/month VPS running basic forum software isn't going to handle 100,000,000 active users, but it sure will handle 10,000 active users, and that's more than e…

You are off by 2 orders of magnitude. Plans for 10k active users on managed instance generally seems to be in the range of $250-450[1][2].

[1]: https://toot.io/pricing.html

[2]: https://masto.host/pricing/

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by dangus »

BobbyBrownGD wrote: post #408
m4jor wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lemmy.ml's admin is pro chinese government and actively censors comments that are critical. What that means to you is your decision, but I want to make people aware before the mass migration date arrives. https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/14k67qt/l... Highly sus

Lemmy's team is very politicized, but even then it took significant pushback to change their minds about an issue that the community was decrying for reasons that were almost entirely technical. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622 I would not bed with these fellows myself.

It bothers me a little bit that having a strong stance against intolerance is seen as being “politicized.” That should just be normal and expected behavior.

Maybe they were abrasive in initially fighting the request to make technical changes to the slur filter, but hey when you ask for free enhancements to open source code you either do the work and provide a pull request or be prepared to be told no.

I empathize with their concern about becoming another Voat or Gab. They want federation but they don’t want a Wild West.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by jdelman »

celdon25 wrote: post #429
zmmmmm wrote: post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

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It's not "fake news" that you now need to be logged in to see tweets. Whether or not this is truly temporary remains to be seen. But we now know this is something Twitter is willing to do, even if they undo it.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by Marcan »

celdon25 wrote: post #429
zmmmmm wrote: post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

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Do you still take this man at his word, after all he's done?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by roland35 »

rglullis wrote: post #411
mauvehaus wrote: post #368

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The answer would seem to be POSSE - Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Everywhere https://indieweb.org/POSSE

If only we had a standard to make syndication of data simple, I mean really, really simple. It had to be so simple the standard could even be called Really Simple Syndication.

Oh what a great idea! And maybe Google could make something to read all those!

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by jjulius »

celdon25 wrote: post #429
zmmmmm wrote: post #337

It always irked me that public institutions embraced Twitter as a primary means of communication in many cases. It never seemed right that a private company was being put in between public functions and the the public which depends on them. Not to mention, since I live outside the US, a private company in another country. I even wrote complaints to one local public body to ask them to set up a communication channel t…

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The article itself is well over 6 hours old. While you may technically be correct about the fact that Musk's tweet counts as comment, an article that has yet to be updated should be called "now inaccurate", not "fake news".

The way you've misrepresented this is more akin to fake news than the article is, and likely to get your comment flagged/heavily downvoted.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by pierat »

coffeebeqn wrote: post #173
nunez wrote: post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

HN doesn’t really have a business model so I’m not sure how much it can be corrupted. I guess if YCombinator ever gets tired of paying the bills , but I’d imagine having a majority(?) of startup/tech employees visit your site almost daily is quite good for them in indirect ways

Tapping on the tech pulse and information control/access is the "business model".

Remember, this is a VC firm that runs the joint. We're paying with our data, and that gives them early/first mover advantage.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Post by NovaDudely »

kibwen wrote: post #292
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does fediverse intend to pay for server/developer cost? For new technologies many smart people work for free as long as it excites them and when it just comes to maintenance and fixing bugs it wouldn't be cheap for any technology with so many moving parts. Also, early adopters donate with much higher probability than when the masses arrive.

Coming of age in the late 90s/early 00s we had plenty of forums to choose from, hosted by hobbyists, with nary a monetization scheme in sight. And this was in the era when the tech was far less accessible and the hardware far more expensive. Sure, maybe a modern $5/month VPS running basic forum software isn't going to handle 100,000,000 active users, but it sure will handle 10,000 active users, and that's more than e…

The big issue with hosting forums and the like is trying to keep the bots at bay. I have seen very small forums get over run in next to no time. And putting in bot checks leads to frustration with the users.
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