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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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I've viewed twitter wayyyyy less (only when someone links something) since Tweetbot stopped working and I think it's been good for my mental health. A login wall will take that usage down to zero, so good news overall.

Yes and it’s weird how weaning yourself off these things can go more easily than expected if you’re ”forced” to (because how you need to use the service changes too much for your tastes).

I think it speaks a lot about the _illusion of value_ these networks provide vs actual value.

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Bluesky - https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/6-02-2023-beta-update " Roadmap and Growth A few weeks ago, we intentionally slowed our invite roll-out while we built more moderation tooling and capacity for users on the app. We staffed a content moderation team with shifts that cover a 24/7 schedule, and consulted with trust and safety experts to establish new processes and policies to support a growing userbase. We’ve resume…

Why did bluesky pick such sketchy looking domain names? blueskyweb.xyz bsky.app @username.bsky.social

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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Uggh. I only use twitter to follow critical (life-and-death) emergency broadcasts from our local fire department. Is there a viable alternative for them to use now that twitter is going to block most of our county’s residents?

For them? Either be a part of a wider alerting system, or an app. Actual emergencies - push text messages to the area, FM/AM radio.

The second they should already know about / be a part of. Maybe email them to check?

For the first, it really depends what area you're in. Australia/Victoria for example has a state-wide https://www.emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/ which has its own app with location/severity based alerting. There may be something similar around you.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If anything, nature is healing. I’ve noticed at least 1 community return to forums due to all of this ( https://mholdschool.com/ ), and while unfortunately AFAIK there isn’t any good FLOSS software for it, it’s certainly a start.

What happened to vBulletin by Jelsoft? Needs to be open sourced.

People use xenforo now, which was created by some former developers of vbulletin so it’s very similar.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#255

You can blame this all you want on evil social media corporations, but the reality is AI companies scraping public conversations to feed LLMs are the current reason for walls being erected around every single garden. Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, LinkedIn.. all heading toward full walled garden mode to prevent scrapers from repurposing data and profiting off their systems. Federated systems are a nice idea, b…

Assuming social media companies are profitable via their normal services, then how they are hurt by downstream AI companies squeezing out a bit of leftover value? Because it feels like me being mad because I find out Jiffy Lube is making money reselling the used oil from my oil changes without giving me a cut.

I think it's a mistake to block third party providers from profiting from their service. First of all the hypocrisy in that all of these large companies exist because of massively profiting off of mostly uncompensated user-created content. Second, this drive toward relentlessly monetizing every aspect of your company's business is how we get degraded services like Microsoft putting ads in their search bar. It's one thing if a downstream OEM does it, I can just use an alternative OEM that doesn't shovelware the crap out of their product. But when the primary provider does it, then their service is permanently borked and eventually becomes unusable. So if the idea of blocking scrapers is because the goal is to eventually provide their own shitty AI services, I think Twitter et al are just going to end up killing their own geese -- making their own services unusable out of greed.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#257

I just ran into this problem -- not being able to view tweets without logging in. As much as I hate Musk, this is clearly the trajectory of all platforms. Without a unified push towards self-hosting or the fediverse, the internet as we know it is over :(

Funnily enough I always respected him for keeping it login free. I thought this was about his town / square free speech vision. Now I can never see myself going near the site again. Oh well.

Yeah, wasn’t that a major hoopla before? Removing the forced login prompt? Making it optional, then removing it, but now re-adding it even worse.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#259

Putting the internet in the hands of corporations was the worst thing that ever happened to technology

"The internet" isn't in their hands, the "Pop Web" (eg, pop music) is. Plenty of other internet out there, it's just time for people to start paying attention to it again.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

To paraphrase Gilmore, “the net interprets [mandatory login and other access fuckery] as censorship and routes around it” If Twitter locks out more readers, people will stop posting and move elsewhere. If Reddit ejects the mods that made it successful, communities will evolve elsewhere. The forest will regrow and different paths will form, routing around the dying patches.

This is true of any medium in any free society. The net has nothing to do with it. It certainly isn’t capable of interpreting some website action as censorship. It’s not sentient. And there’s no dynamic network routing/damage at play here. It’s just people going somewhere else.
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