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Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

> This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

Totally! The internet was better before pay walls / auth walls.

I get why we're here today, and I get that the last phase was just about acquiring an audience, and getting people hooked, and now this part of getting everyone to pay was always the plan, but this part really does suck.

Just feels like all the services lined up to start shitting on users at the same time. Netflix, YouTube, Reddit, Twitter, NYT (and all the newspapers really)... you can't watch Amazon Prime without having 300 "buy now" buttons in your face.

This phase of capitalism sucks.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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And now imagine a citizen wants to quickly check news/updates/whatever from a government agency or a city council which doesn't have a fediverse account

Which government agency/city council exclusively uses such services for updates?

A number of local councils in the UK do for realtime news.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Musk commented on this: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1674865731136020505 "Temporary emergency measure. We were getting data pillaged so much that it was degrading service for normal users!"

"Data pillaging", WTF does that mean?

Remember when Twitter used to give archives of tweets to the Library of Congress? And had a firehose for folks to consume as many tweets as they could?

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #125

Bluesky - https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/6-02-2023-beta-update " Roadmap and Growth A few weeks ago, we intentionally slowed our invite roll-out while we built more moderation tooling and capacity for users on the app. We staffed a content moderation team with shifts that cover a 24/7 schedule, and consulted with trust and safety experts to establish new processes and policies to support a growing userbase. We’ve resume…

Why did bluesky pick such sketchy looking domain names?

blueskyweb.xyz

bsky.app

@username.bsky.social

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

#145

I just ran into this problem -- not being able to view tweets without logging in. As much as I hate Musk, this is clearly the trajectory of all platforms. Without a unified push towards self-hosting or the fediverse, the internet as we know it is over :(

Funnily enough I always respected him for keeping it login free. I thought this was about his town / square free speech vision.

Now I can never see myself going near the site again. Oh well.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #110

This killed nitter. Fuck. I guess I'm done with Twitter. Reddit is in Eternal September. Twitter is login-walled. If HN is next, I'll probably be mostly done with the Internet. This version of the Internet is starting to suck. :(

This internet started to suck a long time ago, but today was a red letter day.

Reddit's been circling the drain for years, but today is the day it truly crossed a line for millions of people at once (They killed Apollo and RIF).

Twitter's been getting rapidly worse since Musk bought it, but this is another red line.

We're not even allowed to talk about the influence of bots and astroturfers here. A popular post today was flagged within an hour, just for pointing out that a site claims to sell upvotes on HN.

I don't like it when the tech giants get in sync like this...

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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post #57

I will miss some of the Ukraine news as twitter was good for that, but that's about it for me at this point.

Most of the news, images, and video originates from Telegram. Even if you don't want an account you can view channels without logging in... For example: https://t.me/s/pilotblog, but there are usually t.me watermarks on videos so you can find plenty of others.

Re: Twitter now requires an account to view tweets

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Honest question, should services that host user generated content be obligated to provide that content "for free" through APIs or scrapers? On one hand, users created the content "for free" for the platform to use and monetize. On the other hand, providing the content through an API without any ad/monetization potential doesn't make good business sense. Is there an acceptable threshold of free viewing before it becom…

Well I guess we’ll work out two things very quickly:

1. Is it worthwhile giving free labour to these services by generating their content,

and,

2. Do we want to login and/or pay to check user generated content?

Personally, I think the answer will be no. If these services generated their own content, which we actually value, then it would be a different matter. But they don’t, so if they put up road blocks I suspect they will get a bit of a shock to learn they aren’t actually as vital to society as they thought they were.

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