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The Liberty Phone

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Re: The Liberty Phone

#31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is clearer and more believable. I'm going by the language on the page I shared. (Yes I'm aware your quote is from the same page). "All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our USA facility" tells me that they are manufacturing all the components at the same facility, which beggars belief.

What your parent quoted comes from the page you shared.

I don't know how to communicate more clearly that there is a contradiction in their claims on the same page.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What your parent quoted comes from the page you shared.

I don't know how to communicate more clearly that there is a contradiction in their claims on the same page.

The phone (its PCB, PCBA and assembly) is made at the USA facility, in contrast to the regular Librem 5 which is made in China. It uses some components that come from outside of the US.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#33

https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/ Quote: "All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our USA facility, and the entire phone is assembled in the USA" Table of origin says: WiFi Card India Both can't be true.

The video on their website is even more damaging...

Edit: Note, this is NOT a claim about this company, their security, or practices -- just a look at the "Made in USA" label they press heavily

"The integrated circuits can come from outside the united states"

A bit of research seems to indicate that this is a fuzzy system..

> The product’s final assembly or processing must take place in the U.S. The Commission then considers other factors, including how much of the product’s total manufacturing costs can be assigned to U.S. parts and processing, and how far removed any foreign content is from the finished product. [1]

So basically, they could have a foreign made network card, cpu, OS... but if you're making a $10,000 car and the total cost of the foreign assistance is You can basically skirt the rules by taking 'assembled in America' another level or two deeper -- like they have. They also do the OS in-states, which they can likely claim is a "huge processing effort" -- which could make the hardware aspects and origin less important in the commissions review

[1]: https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/documents/plain-language/bu...

Re: The Liberty Phone

#34

https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/ Quote: "All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our USA facility, and the entire phone is assembled in the USA" Table of origin says: WiFi Card India Both can't be true.

purism doesn't have the benefit of the doubt anymore.

in past i rooted for them and assumed everything was innocent mistakes... but receiving their borderline illegal investment scam emails every month and the way they deny librem13/15 quality issues just taught me it is pure malice.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#35

https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/ Quote: "All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our USA facility, and the entire phone is assembled in the USA" Table of origin says: WiFi Card India Both can't be true.

The page is pretty misleading. And design wise looks like a scam targeting conservative talk radio listeners.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#36
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google for a brief time assembled Moto in Texas. It wasn't outrageously priced.

Google has the money to take a loss if it means getting product out the door faster than Apple.

google doesn't take losses on smart phones. only home devices

proof: see profit margins on all pixels/nexus. they either use cheap components in flagship models, or partner with someone a la apple and break then to build phones at their loss (see: htc, moto)

Re: The Liberty Phone

#37
post #27

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Re: The Liberty Phone

#38

For $2200 and with this emphasis on secure supply chain, I'd want to watch the thing being built in person while the CEO feeds me grapes.

LOL, I'd want to build it myself at that price, with a hot-air tool and microscope. Like they used to offer a build-your-own engine program on the Corvette assembly line.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#39
> All the electronics of the Liberty Phone are made in our USA facility, and the entire phone is assembled at that same facility, [...] By doing all electronics fabrication, assembly, and fulfillment within the same facility Purism can oversee each stage of the production.

Reading this I just imagine a ASML machine, fabricating the wavers for their SoC, next to a photochemical vacuum bonding machine making the OLED screens. Absurd nonsense, I would be very surprised if they even have pick and place machines in their US factory, some hot glue guns at best.

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