Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

The Liberty Phone

puri.sm

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 112 posts

Re: The Liberty Phone

#21

Post by johnea »

parl_match wrote: post #8

If you're wondering why it's so expensive, it's a confluence of factors: - Making things in the us is expensive. This isn't the root cause but leads to the next point... - Phones are low margin devices. Most consumers are intensely price sensitive. Even if a US-made phone cost only $40 more, it'd still be at a serious disadvantage. - Therefore, there's no point in competing on price. The batch size of this is limited…

I guess if the priority is "branding goals", maybe this was a logical choice.

Personally, I'd prefer they got their existing phone working well...

Re: The Liberty Phone

#22

Post by bryancoxwell »

the-grump wrote: post #11
ramesh31 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assembled, sure. I can promise you the chips are not being made in the US.

They claim the chips are US-made (with a typo and using unclear language), but then the table of origin says something different. It doesn't inspire confidence. Agreed that there is no way the same facility is manufacturing the chips and handling assembly as implied by their language

That’s not quite what they claim. I’ll grant you it is confusing wording though. The paragraphs above the table of origin say:

> We use US companies with US fabrication whenever possible. Most distributors are based in the US with the exception of large integrated circuits that are made in a variety of countries where those companies do fabrication (US, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan); an example is the NXP CPU we use from their fabrication in South Korea.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#23

Post by RIMR »

silisili wrote: post #14
wilsonnb3 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making stuff in the US ain’t cheap

Google for a brief time assembled Moto in Texas. It wasn't outrageously priced.

Google has the money to take a loss if it means getting product out the door faster than Apple.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#26

Post by the-grump »

bryancoxwell wrote: post #22
the-grump wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They claim the chips are US-made (with a typo and using unclear language), but then the table of origin says something different. It doesn't inspire confidence. Agreed that there is no way the same facility is manufacturing the chips and handling assembly as implied by their language

That’s not quite what they claim. I’ll grant you it is confusing wording though. The paragraphs above the table of origin say: > We use US companies with US fabrication whenever possible. Most distributors are based in the US with the exception of large integrated circuits that are made in a variety of countries where those companies do fabrication (US, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan); an example is the NXP CPU we use fr…

That is clearer and more believable. I'm going by the language on the page I shared. (Yes I'm aware your quote is from the same page).

"All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our USA facility" tells me that they are manufacturing all the components at the same facility, which beggars belief.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#27

Post by ooki »

CPU: NXP® i.MX 8M Quad(single core: 729 pts, multi core: 2,154 pts) / RAM: 4GB / Storage: 128GB eMMC / Screen: 5.7″ IPS TFT 720×1440 / Bluetooth: Bluetooth 4 / NFC: No / Starting at $2,199. Serious?

Re: The Liberty Phone

#28

Post by seba_dos1 »

the-grump wrote: post #26
bryancoxwell wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not quite what they claim. I’ll grant you it is confusing wording though. The paragraphs above the table of origin say: > We use US companies with US fabrication whenever possible. Most distributors are based in the US with the exception of large integrated circuits that are made in a variety of countries where those companies do fabrication (US, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan); an example is the NXP CPU we use fr…

That is clearer and more believable. I'm going by the language on the page I shared. (Yes I'm aware your quote is from the same page). "All the electronics of the Liberty Phone is made in our USA facility" tells me that they are manufacturing all the components at the same facility, which beggars belief.

What your parent quoted comes from the page you shared.

Re: The Liberty Phone

#30

Post by m463 »

anyoneamous wrote: post #25

For $2200 and with this emphasis on secure supply chain, I'd want to watch the thing being built in person while the CEO feeds me grapes.

I see - just like most recipes, the US version has added sugar.
Post reply on HN