This isn't common, but it's pretty routine. Pilots are trained for this, and the aircraft are designed to handle the stress.
> the aircraft are designed to handle the stress. I wonder how the runway fares after this.
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's the actual point of Youtube Sharts? It just seems like encouragement for people to film vertically and not frame the shot well. And on the watching side you're pushed into a needlessly unfriendly UI. Like I generally just use the YT web interface and don't go out of my way to routinely yt-dlp or Newpipe, but now I might have to change that.
I don't know, I hate them, it was just the only video I actually found when searching for the flight name on YouTube. Personally I actively avoid that feature, closing the "Shorts" shelf on YouTube at any opportunity I see. I really, really dislike short looping videos, when it starts looping I get irrationally angry and close the window. Instagram Reels is another feature I fucking detest. I might be showing my age,…
I wasn't directing that at you, content is content (and FWIW that link works fine with yt-dlp). Rather I'm blaming Google for foisting this terrible UI on the world when they already had a decent one - from what I can tell there is no seeking, and scrolling up/down with arrow keys or mouse wheel stops the video and moves to the next one. (oof)
I think the "appeal" is for people stuck in dopamine loops on their phone, where the continual stimulation of looping plus the quick-next functionality are "features". Of course being older and more deliberate about technology choices and use, these are actually grating anti-features.
Re: Delta flight lands in Charlotte without front landing gear
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the aircraft are designed to handle the stress. I wonder how the runway fares after this.
Not answering your question, but a bit of interesting trivia for you. Large passenger airplanes routinely take off with too much fuel to land safely. If one took off, circled the airport once, and landed, then it might actually break apart on landing because of the mass of the fuel being sloshed around as the airplane touches down. That's why planes preferably dump or burn off excess fuel before an unscheduled early…
Overweight landings are a thing and it's very, very rare for the airplane to break apart or even be damaged when performing them: https://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/qtr_...
Re: Delta flight lands in Charlotte without front landing gear
#114What's with them putting "a hold" on all of the passengers possessions? Like, that's leaving people without their wallets (aka id, money) and so on. Sounds like they may not get it back for an unknown period of time (weeks, months?) either.
Untold best practice: Keep your phone, passport, wallet etc on your body always while on a flight. Imagine being stuck in this situation in a foreign country where they'll keep you at the airport for days waiting to figure out how to get you back home without a passport. Your renters/homeowners insurance may cover anything left on the plane that is lost and not covered by the airline.
Re: Delta flight lands in Charlotte without front landing gear
#115What's with them putting "a hold" on all of the passengers possessions? Like, that's leaving people without their wallets (aka id, money) and so on. Sounds like they may not get it back for an unknown period of time (weeks, months?) either.
I understand "don't take any bags as we deplane down the emergency slide", but the hold is weird. I'd probably get arrested in the process of being like "No the bag with my important possessions I keep next to me on purpose is coming with me" They were probably rushed off due to being unsure about fire hazards, and people digging through carryons for wallets and stuff would probably slow that down a lot, considering…
The right time to grab wallet was after the pilot explained the issue and next steps.
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#116Did they know in advance that they were having problems? Edit: Answer: Yes ... the crew initiated a go around due to a unsafe nose gear indication, climbed to 4000 feet and entered a hold to work the checklists. After working the checklists the crew declared emergency and requested emergency services on stand by. The aircraft performed a low approach to runway 36L, positioned for another approach to runway 36L and la…
If you want to hear the conversion between the pilots and ATC during this time, the VASAviation channel has you covered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7bWWVj91YA
I find the YouTube ecosystem amazing. If there is a popular niche topic that has at least some amount of following, you’ll find several “competitor” channels.
VASAviation is one of the “air traffic control recording” YouTube channels but there are a few others that are equally as good.
There are at least two YouTube channels[2] dedicated to recording the crazy boat ramps around Miami. Nothing is more entertaining than watching all the chaos around a boat ramp. Especially ones are busy as those around Miami.
There are dozens of channels publishing multi-hour first person view trips from rail conductors traveling through various scenic rail lines[3]. Some get 100’s of thousands of views per video! I wonder what fraction of that traffic watches the entire trip!
Let’s not forget Australian jetters [1]! You too can watch at least two channels worth of drain cleaning videos complete with all manner of foul disgusting water bubbling up out of random bits of pipe. Kids love this stuff!
These channels publish frequently and get a reasonable amount of watches. It’s nuts how a platform like YouTube can grow such strangely niche channels.
1: https://youtube.com/@DrainAddict
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well they are memorable for the people that live in the area—at least that was the case when broadcast TV/radio was important. There really wasn't a need for them to be decipherable to outsiders since historically they would be outside of the broadcast range.
They all come with cute little jingles of people singing the letters! KOME: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rMhtoniG82o (I wish I could find a recording of the one that went;: "Don't touch that dial!!! You've got KOME on your radio." or "The KOME spot on your FM dial.") Vintage WWDC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPybevwjinM
I still know wwdc is dc101. Impressionable youth and all that.
Re: Delta flight lands in Charlotte without front landing gear
#118Did they know in advance that they were having problems? Edit: Answer: Yes ... the crew initiated a go around due to a unsafe nose gear indication, climbed to 4000 feet and entered a hold to work the checklists. After working the checklists the crew declared emergency and requested emergency services on stand by. The aircraft performed a low approach to runway 36L, positioned for another approach to runway 36L and la…
If you want to hear the conversion between the pilots and ATC during this time, the VASAviation channel has you covered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7bWWVj91YA
For those interested: the video lacks a lot of audio, since not all frequencies are/were recorded. I think the most interesting stuff is missing.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is kind of patronizing to the pilots. There’s nothing particularly difficult about what they did, which has been practiced many times. They ran their checklists, and then landed the plane, and they did it well, just like any other qualified pilot should have. People need to stop conflating basic competence with heroics. Age is always a factor in mechanical failure, but I’m sure this failure will be inspected in…
I would imagine simulator practice is a good amount different from executing the real thing when your adrenaline is kicking in and they have a full plane. They are professionals that executed a complex task gracefully to minimize the terror that their passengers experienced (they balanced on the back wheels for a long time to bleed off speed and the landing seemed more graceful than many with all landing gear that I'…
Just to nitpick, this landing technique is something every pilot has to demonstrate to an FAA designated examiner to get their first pilot certificate (or, the private pilot license). So it's kind of like saying "Wow, you did the thing every pilot has to do!". I get what you're saying though - there's an emotional difference between doing this when everything is fine and when you have a real emergency.
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#120It's cool how they wait as long as they can before gently placing the nose on the runway. So much smoother and quieter than I anticipated. Delta owes these pilots an off-duty drink!