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New speech-jamming gun hints at dystopian Big Brother future

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Re: New speech-jamming gun hints at dystopian Big Brother future

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> if you’re a firm believer in free speech, you should now be experiencing a deafening cacophony of alarm bells This article is sensationalist. If a directional mic/speaker is a "speech jamming gun" then a loud speaker is a "free speech area jammer". And you really don't need the mic - just blast Justin Bieber at a conversation and nobody will be able to hear anything intelligible anyway... If you had a "totalitarian…

No, but a western democracy could make up some pretext to silence protests under the guise of, say, bringing peace to the lives of all the people who don't give a shit, so that they don't fall so much in the polls.

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In short, imagine if a runaway mega-corporation or government gains control of these earbuds. Not only could the intelligence-destroying blasts from Harrison Bergeron come to pass, but with Delayed Auditory Feedback it would be possible to render the entire population mute. Is it just me who thought; well if a runaway mega-corporation does come to exist, in a position to force society to wear such earbuds (or whateve…

Yeah - this seems like a sci-fi rant.

Re: New speech-jamming gun hints at dystopian Big Brother future

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It's not a speech-jamming gun at all. It's a speaker which plays back your speech to you. It could be easily circumvented with $.10 earplugs...

Even the best earplugs only muffle sound to a certain degree. Sound, especially loud sounds, is transmitted very well through the bones in your head.

Bone conduction only works well for lower frequencies, unless a transducer or vibrating object is directly coupled to your body. Earplugs would work just fine in this application.

Re: New speech-jamming gun hints at dystopian Big Brother future

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It doesn't cancel your speech - it plays it back to you with a slight delay. You hear what you said an instant ago. Turn on the TV. Try repeating what someone talking continuously says right after they say it. That's what happens; it jams you mentally. Granted simultaneous translators at the UN do it with a twist, so it's possible.

No, I mean, if you wore earplugs to defend yourself from the jammer -- you can't tell how loud you're talking, and controlling pitch/tone can be hard, too. (AFAIK, this is why deaf people find it hard to speak.)

(AFAIK, this is why deaf people find it hard to speak.)

People who have been deaf from birth or youth find it hard to speak because they don't have the experience hearing others pronounce words which lets them develop proper pronunciation (similar to how non-native speakers have an accent).

People born with normal hearing who have lost their hearing due to age or noise exposure have no problem speaking.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't cancel your speech - it plays it back to you with a slight delay. You hear what you said an instant ago. Turn on the TV. Try repeating what someone talking continuously says right after they say it. That's what happens; it jams you mentally. Granted simultaneous translators at the UN do it with a twist, so it's possible.

No, I mean, if you wore earplugs to defend yourself from the jammer -- you can't tell how loud you're talking, and controlling pitch/tone can be hard, too. (AFAIK, this is why deaf people find it hard to speak.)

I think that you would still hear yourself, because you hear the sound resonating from inside your body, that's why people dislike their recorded voice.

In general, I am not sure that the claim that this is going to prevent people from talking very effectively. Maybe it will be uncomfortable, but with a little bit of training and earplugs would not be effective for too long.

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While the title made me wonder if this was a spoof article, I'm surprised that no one here finds the article chilling. Forget the politicians, the intended use is for modifying people's behaviour. From friends' anecdotes (both Japanese friends and those who spent many years in Japan), there is strong pressure to conform in Japanese schools. Imagine this scenario:

Speech jammers are introduced into Japanese schools. From the article: “We have to establish and obey rules for proper turn-taking when speaking." Sounds like a school to me. This type of technology used on kids could have long-term impact on their ability to think during public conversations. And once the teacher realizes they can silence any student at will, do you think they'll stop at the "louder, stronger" voices? Any student with an opinion the teacher doesn't like could get zapped. And the worst part is not that other students won't hear their ideas -- it's that the student herself will have those thoughts disrupted.

Entrepreneurs are who we are because we think outside the box -- we do things we're told can't be done. Most people aren't like that. And imagine if every time you talked about anything "out of the norm" as a child your very thoughts were stopped. Chilling.

I guess if Japanese authorities want that kind of conformity, it might help the US economy...but I'm still not a fan.

Re: New speech-jamming gun hints at dystopian Big Brother future

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I don't understand how the author of this article thinks this could be applied to an audience or protestors.

For this to work, the audio output to each individual person has to be exactly what each individual person is currently saying. If it's a combined audio mess of an entire audience's voices, it's not exactly going to screw up anyone's speech patterns.

So the only way this could work in an audience would be if the back of every chair in front of people had one of these devices on it which could filter out the noise of everyone else around that person and only output their voice.

Re: New speech-jamming gun hints at dystopian Big Brother future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even the best earplugs only muffle sound to a certain degree. Sound, especially loud sounds, is transmitted very well through the bones in your head.

Bone conduction only works well for lower frequencies, unless a transducer or vibrating object is directly coupled to your body. Earplugs would work just fine in this application.

I've yet to find a pair of earplugs that block conversations in my office enough to let me concentrate, I seriously doubt that they'd be good for a concentrated blast of sound.
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