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Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by JackMorgan »

veave wrote: post #77
Gigachad wrote: post #68

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My city banned single use plastics ages ago. Plastic bags banned over a decade ago now. Plastic cutlery and containers banned in 2020. People freak out at the start and complain but no one cares and life continues on. Personally I bring my own bags to the supermarket since the paper ones are a bit annoying, but its trivial to just stuff one in my pocket before I leave.

>People freak out at the start and complain but no one cares and life continues on. And what are we supposed to do against this, raise in arms? In my country we have two big parties but they are in cahoots (practically have the same progressive opinions on everything) so we can't even vote to have these authoritarian policies removed. There obviously are other parties but it would take something big, or reaching a ti…

Do you consider single use plastic bans to be excessive and authoritarian?

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by joveian »

jlokier wrote: post #190
iso1631 wrote: post #172

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If I drop my plastic water bottle I pick it up and carry on. If I drop my glass bottle...

It depends on the type of glass. Some glasses are incredibly resilient, and some of them are flexible. They all look the same, so people who don't know tend to think of all glass as the same substance.

Some glass is also plastic. But I think outside technical discussions and deceptive marketing glass is usually used to refer to borosilicate or soda-lime since those are what most widespread glass products were for a while. Recently there are more varieties of glass that are marketed as glass to take advantage of the good reputation (in some ways) of borosilicate and soda-lime. But this is like using the term fruit in a technical way, it is just not what most people mean by the term glass.

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by rideontime »

peteradio wrote: post #234
blueprint wrote: post #230

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Here's what I want to know, has anyone done any studies on what happens when sugars enter the penis? Is it better or worse than drinking the beverage? OP might be well advised to avoid fucking his beverages.

Sugar in the urethra can lead to urinary tract infections, which is why sounding with candy is not advised.

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by [deleted] »

_dain_ wrote: post #156
aziaziazi wrote: post #61

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4. Walking. A bit less minimalistic: ride your (non e-) bike, scooter, skateboard, kayak, sled, basically anything non motorized. Use best tire quality so you don’t change then often. A bite more minimalistic: prefer walking barefoot anytime you can. Shoes are tire that wear out. King of related: still looking for shoe/soles that last. My grand mother used to wear wood clogs, not sure where to find some that fits me.

Do you wear a hair shirt too? How are you going to transport heavy goods without some kind of motorized or motor-assist vehicle? Unless you want to keep horses or donkeys. Ebikes are a godsend. Without one I'd have to get things delivered by van. This is the problem with environmentalism-as-actually-practiced -- the conversation starts with plastic pollution, you look away for five seconds, and suddenly there are a b…

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Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by jader201 »

Retric wrote: post #143
hospitalJail wrote: post #133

The word 'Plastic' needs to die. Instead we should be more specific on the type of plastic. Teflon, PLA, ABS, resins, foams, etc... are all plastics, but they are so unrelated outside their long chains, its terrible to stereotype them all into one category. You aren't going to get cancer from PLA or Teflon, but rather the manufacturing process. You can eat these plastics as far as I know and you'd be fine. Eat someth…

Teflon Aka Polytetrafluoroethylene cookware represents a health hazard. The stuff contains a great deal of Florine and breaks down at 300C, but that’s not purely binary instead it becomes increasingly unstable as your approach the temperature. Further no manufacturing process is perfect, I wouldn’t therefore assume eating significant quantities would be safe. That said, it’s generally used as a coating rather than a…

> Teflon Aka Polytetrafluoroethylene cookware represents a health hazard.

Are you saying, then, that this claim [1] is false?

It states that PTFE is safe, whereas PFOA — what Teflon used to contain — was the component that made Teflon unsafe.

[1] https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/is-teflon-coating-safe

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by hgomersall »

pvaldes wrote: post #105
smellyshaft1 wrote: post #87

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Aluminum is not safer than copper

I assume that the list from less toxic to more toxic is: silica -> iron -> aluminum -> copper With a logarithmic scale unit between each step or so. We ingest and tolerate much more aluminum than copper in our daily journey and we could drink water with much more iron oxide dissolved on it than aluminum oxide without suffering permanent problems

You should be careful of leaded glass, I've read research that shows it leaches into the liquid it contains (this is a problem in e.g. decanters where the acidic wine sits for several days).

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Post by fullstop »

yetihehe wrote: post #94
mrweasel wrote: post #55

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You shouldn't be washing your car in the driveway. Even if you use environmentally friendly soap, or no soap, the water coming of the car isn't exactly clean. Professional car wash places are required (depending on location) to collect and dispose of their waste water in a safe way. When you wash the car in the driveway, the waste water will either go into the ground or the storm drains, neither of which will ensure…

I solved this problem in minimalist way - I wash my car maybe twice a year. It sits in my driveway in rain anyway because my garage is waiting for some spare time so that I can finally reuse all that pallets I collected since last year (mostly clean pallets I've already made some nice yard furniture for myself and family, all those pallets already have planned use but I don't have enough time).

Pallets are often treated with chemicals, so keep that in mind.

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Post by monktastic1 »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #196
realshadow wrote: post #11

I became a minimist to save the planet as much as i could. Its easier than any one could think you know. Here is what i have been doing for a decade and would receommend 1. Reusing plastic bags (i love cotton bags but not ideal). Fold and keep one or two in your pocket before you leave home 2. Support and use light software so you dont need to upgrade your gadgets (12y laptop i use) 3. Prepare and eat home cooked mea…

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There are two possibilities for each human to try:

1. Pour all your effort into becoming a kinder, wiser human, and watch as it rubs off on the people around you in surprising and far-ranging ways, amplifying itself into the world through "network effects." Allow this to become a virtuous cycle.

2. Become cynical and bitter, and watch the opposite happen.

In either case, the world will present you with all the evidence you need that your way is objectively correct and that everyone who sees it differently is clueless (though in the first case, probably not with so much disdain and contempt...).

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by [deleted] »

yadingus wrote: post #187
aziaziazi wrote: post #61

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4. Walking. A bit less minimalistic: ride your (non e-) bike, scooter, skateboard, kayak, sled, basically anything non motorized. Use best tire quality so you don’t change then often. A bite more minimalistic: prefer walking barefoot anytime you can. Shoes are tire that wear out. King of related: still looking for shoe/soles that last. My grand mother used to wear wood clogs, not sure where to find some that fits me.

Wood clogs sound terrible for the health of your feet. There's guides for making huaraches with tire rubber. And there's also barefoot sandals that claim to last a life time (but cost like 100 bucks).

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Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Post by hgomersall »

yetihehe wrote: post #94
mrweasel wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You shouldn't be washing your car in the driveway. Even if you use environmentally friendly soap, or no soap, the water coming of the car isn't exactly clean. Professional car wash places are required (depending on location) to collect and dispose of their waste water in a safe way. When you wash the car in the driveway, the waste water will either go into the ground or the storm drains, neither of which will ensure…

I solved this problem in minimalist way - I wash my car maybe twice a year. It sits in my driveway in rain anyway because my garage is waiting for some spare time so that I can finally reuse all that pallets I collected since last year (mostly clean pallets I've already made some nice yard furniture for myself and family, all those pallets already have planned use but I don't have enough time).

Twice a year! How decadent!
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