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Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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Very cool :) Presumably though if you add quantcast tracking code they could look to quantcast which seems to be taking over from alexa these days?

how does quantcast get their data?

From panels/ISPs,

-OR-

You insert some js in your pages, and it's "quantified". They actually have some pretty cool stats, and exact numbers unlike alexa.

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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how does quantcast get their data?

From panels/ISPs, -OR- You insert some js in your pages, and it's "quantified". They actually have some pretty cool stats, and exact numbers unlike alexa.

problem 1: phones don't do js

problem 2: phones don't have panels

problem 3: phones don't connect to isp's they connect to carrier wap gateways.

One attempt to track mobile is from Opera but it's highly skewed to the type of people that have Opera on their phones and the activity that's significant for them: http://www.opera.com/mobile_report/

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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cool but destined to the same fate as meebo. the major IM players will never backdoor each other with out-of-agreement access to each others' users. if they wanted to, they could have all been doing that years ago, on mobile too. don't try to out-reason things, just accept that even though X and Y could interract trivially with open-source access libs, they would rather sit in a room for six months and do a one-off deal. so unless these guys get their own rev model, they will end up just like meebo...a cool service that is immune to acquisition

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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cool but destined to the same fate as meebo. the major IM players will never backdoor each other with out-of-agreement access to each others' users. if they wanted to, they could have all been doing that years ago, on mobile too. don't try to out-reason things, just accept that even though X and Y could interract trivially with open-source access libs, they would rather sit in a room for six months and do a one-off d…

Immune to acquisition from major IM networks. That still leaves the options of a) everyone else. b) hitting revenue and creating a viable long-term business.

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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cool but destined to the same fate as meebo. the major IM players will never backdoor each other with out-of-agreement access to each others' users. if they wanted to, they could have all been doing that years ago, on mobile too. don't try to out-reason things, just accept that even though X and Y could interract trivially with open-source access libs, they would rather sit in a room for six months and do a one-off d…

If you'll read some of the other comments, particularly the ones from the Heysan team, you'll notice that they have established a revenue model and probably don't require your unsolicited advice and proclamations.

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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From panels/ISPs, -OR- You insert some js in your pages, and it's "quantified". They actually have some pretty cool stats, and exact numbers unlike alexa.

problem 1: phones don't do js problem 2: phones don't have panels problem 3: phones don't connect to isp's they connect to carrier wap gateways. One attempt to track mobile is from Opera but it's highly skewed to the type of people that have Opera on their phones and the activity that's significant for them: http://www.opera.com/mobile_report/

Ah presumably most of the usage is via WAP then?

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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cool but destined to the same fate as meebo. the major IM players will never backdoor each other with out-of-agreement access to each others' users. if they wanted to, they could have all been doing that years ago, on mobile too. don't try to out-reason things, just accept that even though X and Y could interract trivially with open-source access libs, they would rather sit in a room for six months and do a one-off d…

Immune to acquisition from major IM networks. That still leaves the options of a) everyone else. b) hitting revenue and creating a viable long-term business.

Luckily the vast majority of our traffic is between Heysan-Heysan users.

On a high level IM is becoming a commodity. I'm not bullish on the long-term survival of MSN Messenger in it's current form. Facebook has just launched a much more relevant IM service than MSN or AIM will ever be.

The fundamental problem with IM remains, it's hard to monetize. As is social networking. With a built-in micropayment system the chances of succeeding there increases. That's why mobile makes a massive difference.

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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problem 1: phones don't do js problem 2: phones don't have panels problem 3: phones don't connect to isp's they connect to carrier wap gateways. One attempt to track mobile is from Opera but it's highly skewed to the type of people that have Opera on their phones and the activity that's significant for them: http://www.opera.com/mobile_report/

Ah presumably most of the usage is via WAP then?

It's mobile web yes. most of the mobile web browsers renders XHTML and most traffic is XHTML

Re: Heysan (YC 07) - 100 million monthly page views and 600,000 users

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Ah presumably most of the usage is via WAP then?

It's mobile web yes. most of the mobile web browsers renders XHTML and most traffic is XHTML

FYI, our largest devices are Ipod Touch, Samsung Instinct, Blackberry, Nokia N95 and Sony PSP.
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