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Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

#81

Ad blockers are rules for thee, but not for me. As software engineers many of us play a part in creating a world that we wouldn't want to live in and then exempt ourselves from it with ad blockers leaving the ignorant or less technically inclined to fend for themselves. It unethical to use ad blockers. I could not imagine using the internet without an ad blocker and despite trying to live an ethical life, that's one…

Is it unethical to use accessibility tools that cannot see visual ads? Is it unethical to use a computer that isn’t associated with you? (And thus have no ad profile?) If I get a untargeted ad, am I stealing?

> Is it unethical to use accessibility tools that cannot see visual ads?

Arguably, in a black and white sense I think so. In a practical sense no. You wouldn't expect someone who's blind to get a free meal at a restaurant just because they are blind. From a practical point of view implementing ads for the visually impaired probably costs more than the ads gain, and therefore a company would rather not, but if a company implemented an accommodation so that the ad could be experienced by the impaired person, then I would argue not experiencing that ad is unethical.

> Is it unethical to use a computer that isn’t associated with you?

The point is applying Kant's categorical imperative. If we took the idea of using ad block and made it a rule that everyone must follow, websites would not be able to fund themselves because they fund themselves by showing ads which creates a contradiction and therefore using adblock is unethical.

You can equivocate to try to justify the behavior, but that doesn't change that for most of the web, you are provided a web page in exchange for ads.

Companies are taking your data and selling it because they can, and you don't know the value of your data, so that is arguably theft and almost certainly unethical too. Poorly specified contracts are also unethical. When you visit a website, you don't know what you are giving up or the price you are paying. That's wrong.

I am a little sad there is no wide spread doxxing of the owners of adtech/data broker companies to force the ethics discussion in congress.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Can you outline how you're doing system-wide as blocking? That's news to me!

There's a few notable differences between android and iOS as far as adblocking is concerned: 1) Android lets you install other browsers and use them as default. Some of these, like Firefox or Brave or Vivaldi, include adblocking software that works everywhere, even YouTube. Whereas on iOS, even if you install chrome, it's just a reskinned safari because Apple refuses third parties proper access to the system. https:/…

AdAway on F-Droid is FOSS and works with or without root, big fan of that one.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

#85
In the past, I used adblock, but now I only allow it on 1% of websites. It's only necessary for 1% of websites.

The reason is that I now have a website and earn money through ad banners, so I understand how challenging it is to optimize ad banners. Meanwhile, we may have 60% of users using adblock in certain fields.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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What "Detect Cloudflare" is for, in terms of privacy?

Cloudflare's operating probably the largest man-in-the-middle data harvesting operation in the world (at least in the commercial world) If a site's running Cloudflare, and I don't have an amazing overarching reason to hit the site (eg my dr's portal), I add it to my block list

It is not always bad to harvest data. As a developer, I understand that there are often valid reasons for doing so.

I'm not sure where everyone got the idea that tracking and harvesting data is always bad.

In addition, it is essentially impossible to have something harmful happen to you if you refrain from entering your bank password on websites.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

#87

Everyone is crazy about privacy, but I don't understand why. If you're not visiting anything illegal, you shouldn't care. It doesn't affect my life at all.

I think people who lack understanding about the internet may prioritize privacy because they don't truly comprehend it. Please correct it if I'm wrong.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

#88

I don't use them. I do pay for the version without ads of the services I use them most though (YouTube, Nebula, Reddit, using Kagi instead of Google, etc). I happen to not use sites that don't offer a version without ads enough for them to annoy me OR I've used FB and it's so annoying that I just stopped using it, which is an improvement on my life anyway. All in all i spend about $30/month to not have ads while supp…

I have YouTube premium and overall probably spend $100/mo on digital content. What bothers me is that even when paying full price I'm getting giant banner ads on the top and a slower experience.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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The only real attack I've heard about is that if your insurance company finds out you participate in risky behaviors, they'll raise your rates. Otherwise why does it matter if Google knows my age and some of my hobbies?

Otherwise when you wife asks why you're getting ads for 'single Muslim women in your area' you'll have no defence.

Or ads at work for BDSM paraphernalia which I look at at home :)
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