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I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This appears to be a decent though seemingly incomplete list with outcomes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source_license_litigation

Thanks, this is just what I was looking for.

It is incomplete however. For example, there was a long-running lawsuit against VMware that was never resolved. [1] Was sort of an odd case and pretty much no one else in the industry wanted to go near it.

[1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-developer-abandons-vmwar...

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

#73
post #44

I've heard people on HN say you can't build a huge business off open source. That Red Hat was a one-off. Maybe this supports the narrative? Assuming it goes poorly I mean.

Why? They did have a good thing going; that they then went and decided to shoot their own foot doesn't invalidate the earlier success.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

#74
I'm done with everything related to Redhat after Redhat8(no it's not RHEL 8, it's their non-enterprise distro before it's ditched and Fedora was invented as far as I can recall), yes it's about two decades ago.

I since switched to Debian ecosystem, and never looked back. I was pissed off enough to never use any rpm-based distro ever since.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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post #58
post #35

>Red Hat seems to be upping the limit to 240 sockets per developer as of this writing -- EDIT: I read twitter, seems it may mean number of machines as opposed to open sockets. But a very confusing post. I stopped with RHEL 2 months ago at work, I use Slackware at home. What does that quote mean, if I get a RHEL developer license, am I limited to the number of open sockets ? That almost goes back to the per user licen…

> I use Slackware at home. Slackware was my first distro decades ago, and I have lots of fond memories learning Linux with it. How is it these days? What makes it your distro of choice at home in 2023?

Not OP, but: stable, with up-to-date packages. Configuration and maintenance does not change drastically between versions (there's a paper manual, it's on its second revision).

I can be heads-down on something for months and not run updates, and then run them and they apply fine and don't hose anything.

Long support for releases, both officially and on slackbuids.org

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

#76
People talk about how pre-IBM RedHat was somehow a good player. Perhaps that is true on the Linux side, where there were more eyes. Outside of Linux, I can say they were definitely toxic after acquiring JBoss, locking down previously open-sourced features, shipping bugs that could only be fixed if you had access to the enterprise contract, deleting content from the Wiki that they wanted behind the paywall of the enterprise contract. Even if some of that started pre-acquisition, it certainly accelerated post.

It's amazing to me that anyone upstream would lift a finger for RedHat at this point.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

#77
How many times is everyone going to be so "shocked" when a corporation screws them over in a business descision?

Why would you have picked Red Hat in the first place?

Choose an independent distribution for more technical and end user oriented project trajectory.

Archlinux was the poster child for this until it basically fell to Red Hat with systemd adoption.

At this point Voidlinux is the most robust independent distro...

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

#79
post #34

Will Red Hat start discreetly tagging source code releases per subscription to find out who is sharing source code?

I've read a suggestion that that actually would violate the assorted open source licenses in question, which generally require some version of giving the user the same source as was used to build the binaries they got. Of course, they might be able to just do it on the more permissively licensed packages.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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post #7

I'm surprised at all of the drama surrounding Red Hat's decisions. Red Hat is a for-profit company and not a charity. They (Red Hat) don't make any claims of offering RHEL for free to the whole world. If you want that, Canonical's Ubuntu may be a better option for you. Am I missing something?

I don't think the author is expecting charitable behavior: it's more that Red Hat was deriving extraordinary amounts of value from his work, and was (partially) compensating for that by making his (and others') support for RHEL easier by providing them will access to RHEL. In other words: Red Hat's behavior here is almost certainly going to make end-level support for their OS worse, not better, all for a tiny slice o…

Red Hat offers free subscriptions to developers. How doesn't it help in this case?
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