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I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Post by n0us »

gtirloni wrote: post #12
poo-yie wrote: post #7

I'm surprised at all of the drama surrounding Red Hat's decisions. Red Hat is a for-profit company and not a charity. They (Red Hat) don't make any claims of offering RHEL for free to the whole world. If you want that, Canonical's Ubuntu may be a better option for you. Am I missing something?

> Red Hat is a for-profit company ... built on top of software and labour contributed by others. What you're missing is how the open source ethos works.

Isn't that basically all for-profit software though? not to mention exactly how most of the people on this board have paying jobs?

I would argue that it's exactly how the open source ethos works

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Post by jmclnx »

>Red Hat seems to be upping the limit to 240 sockets per developer as of this writing

-- EDIT: I read twitter, seems it may mean number of machines as opposed to open sockets. But a very confusing post.

I stopped with RHEL 2 months ago at work, I use Slackware at home.

What does that quote mean, if I get a RHEL developer license, am I limited to the number of open sockets ? That almost goes back to the per user licenses in the old UNIX Days. If I ever had to use RHEL, I would now say no just because of this.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Post by volkadav »

hospitalJail wrote: post #4

Is this a clickbait title? Or do I misunderstand the word enterprise? They are not done with using Linux for "a project or undertaking, typically one that is difficult or requires effort." or "a business or company." They are no longer going to use a specific version of linux that was made by "a business or company." Do people really care that much about linux distros? Between 2 decades of personal use and a few year…

There can be quite a number of distro-specific quirks to bear in mind if you're targeting more than one, enough so that as a downstream product vendor it's nice to only have one or two ideally slowly-moving targets (say, RHEL and Ubuntu LTS) to test on/document/support instead of dozens. In turn it's also nice as an end-user to have a platform with long periods of stability/support so you're not having to rebuild/retune your systems' foundational bits every year.

(I have no particular dog in this fight. I mostly left the RedHat ecosystem behind a long time ago, but I understand it's still a big deal for a lot of vendors and clients. From an individual dev/user perspective, I agree that more or less as long as whatever is a posix-y environment, I can figure it out and get my work done, whether it's solaris or slackware or whatever haha.)

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Post by buzer »

jmclnx wrote: post #35

>Red Hat seems to be upping the limit to 240 sockets per developer as of this writing -- EDIT: I read twitter, seems it may mean number of machines as opposed to open sockets. But a very confusing post. I stopped with RHEL 2 months ago at work, I use Slackware at home. What does that quote mean, if I get a RHEL developer license, am I limited to the number of open sockets ? That almost goes back to the per user licen…

> am I limited to the number of open sockets

I assume they mean CPU sockets.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Post by axus »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #14
poo-yie wrote: post #7

I'm surprised at all of the drama surrounding Red Hat's decisions. Red Hat is a for-profit company and not a charity. They (Red Hat) don't make any claims of offering RHEL for free to the whole world. If you want that, Canonical's Ubuntu may be a better option for you. Am I missing something?

I mean, they’re within their right to pull support, but people are equally within their right to point out how that is shooting themselves and the RHEL communities in the foot.

It's pretty sad. Red Hat should be optimizing for "maximum number of dollars over 10 years", not "maximum control over RHEL-compatible distribution". The second goal leads to more support for their competitors, and ultimately less people buying Red Hat subscriptions.

Anecdotally, we'll have to support more Linux varieties instead of comfortably mandating RHEL-compatible.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Post by criddell »

pamhalpert wrote: post #9

Not going to touch the hair on fire tone of this in general... but one thing worth mentioning is I believe the "freeloader" comment meant Rocky, Alma, Oracle and the likes are the freeloaders who are repackaging and RESELLING without contributing anything. If you read between the lines in 2020, this was the next logical step coming. I think they should have done both changes back in 2020 and put a wider emphasis on t…

> RESELLING without contributing anything

I think you are underestimating the value of providing support to commercial users.

Re: I'm Done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)

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Post by xt00 »

Could somebody who maintains a particularly important open source software change the license to say basically “you must release your source code to anyone who requests it free of charge whether they are a customer or not”? Yes Redhat is a for profit company, but them deciding to make a business off of software that has licenses that might change to their detriment is their problem. Oh wait is that what they are doing to others now too? Well I guess that’s what happens..
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