Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

github.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

191–200 of 204 posts

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#191

Post by josephcsible »

SoftTalker wrote: post #85
mikae1 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They say the instance you choose doesn't matter that much I would way that's not true. Mostly speaking from a Mastodon perspective, but should be true for Lemmy/Kbin too. Healthy small ones with active moderation should be a good choice as they have a lesser chance of being defederated. Many smaller instances recently defederated mastodon.social because of spam. You should also choose one that doesn't defederate ot…

What is the practical effect on the user of an instance being "defederated?" People compare these federated social platforms to email, as there are many email providers and they can all exchange mail with each other. But there's no concept of being "defederated" in email. Or is there? I just don't understand the term.

The email equivalent of being "defederated" would be if Microsoft and Google both decided to start dropping all mail from your domain sent to any mailboxes they run.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#192

Post by Anon_Forever »

armchairhacker wrote: post #183
Anon_Forever wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>As a result, we find historical figures such as John Brown very admirable and hold strong opinions on what should happen to slaveholders and their ilk. Beehaw doesn't seem to like that. What does this even mean in the context of a social media site?

> Group A: “We should punch Nazis, we actively encourage punching Nazis” > Beehaw: “Hey! You can’t advocate for violence towards people!” > Group A: “They’re Nazis, they deserve it” Something along those lines. In this case not exactly “punching Nazis”, but advocating something “should happen to slaveholders and their ilk”. For context, John Brown tried to organize a violent rebellion among black slaves in the South:…

This sounds like it boils down to "everyone I dislike is a Nazi." The mirror image of this would be:

> Group A: “We should punch commies, we actively encourage punching commies” > Beehaw: “Hey! You can’t advocate for violence towards people!”

> Group A: “They’re commies, they deserve it”

Something along those lines. In this case not exactly “punching commies”, but advocating something “should happen to commies and their ilk”.

I know who John Brown is, but that history is completely immaterial to the topic at hand.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#193

Post by josephcsible »

School-Cotton wrote: post #115
0xffff2 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is, it's just not talked about much. It is incredibly hard to run your own email server today because even if you follow all of the rules the big players will often refuse to accept your emails (i.e. defederate your email server).

That’s a very persistent myth. I run my own email server and my mail gets delivered fine. There are a few things you need to do, yes, but it’s not “incredibly hard”.

It's not that doing the list of things is hard. It's that even if you do everything correctly, sometimes your mail will get dropped anyway for no explicable reason.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#194

Post by brabel »

brabel wrote: post #130
tgv wrote: post #14

Calling an instance without users "awesome" is stretching it. Unfortunately, less than 10 users makes up a large majority, and those have very, very small communities.

I've joined lemmy.world and there seems to be some stuff going on there, but the only programming community with any traction seems to be Beehaw's: https://lemmy.world/c/programming@beehaw.org But that's still almost empty... I've been visiting for a week, and I think the posts I saw a week ago are still there on the first page, with just a couple new articles showing up every few days :( I am in desperate need for s…

EDIT: looks like I am a victim of the defederation that happened... I only see comments made on my instance, lemmy.world, because Beehaw defederated lemmy.worlld... it's possible to see there's many more comments by going to lemmy.one instead.

Decentralization is already causing fragmentation and echo chambers, as everyone is learning the hard way... unfortunately.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#195

Post by PestoDiRucola »

assbuttbuttass wrote: post #70
reddisbad wrote: post #30

Will Lemmy ever progress beyond discussions about federation?

Yes, there's a lot of great communities focused on LGBT or politics

> or politics

As far as I've noticed those politics discussions boil down to different degrees of reverence for Deng Xiaoping, and if one is slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders you get banned.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#196

Post by zimpenfish »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #134
jefftk wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Defederation in email would be a.example putting in a block where you can't receive email from users on b.example. With email this pretty much only happens because of spamming, so it would be very surprising for, say, Hotmail to block Gmail.

What I don't get is that this seems like something you would want to do for yourself as a user, not something you'd want your instance/server admin doing due to whatever drama of the week is going on.

> What I don't get is that this seems like something you would want to do for yourself as a user

Speaking as an admin, if a server starts sending me hundreds of spams an hour, it's going to get blocked because I don't want to spend (my limited) resources on spams, much less push the handling of that down to my users.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#197

Post by Snuupy »

finder83 wrote: post #158

My impression (which may be wrong) of Lemmy is that a large number of instances are very pro-censorship and heavily left-leaning. Which of course is reflective of Reddit itself. But it doesn't exactly instill confidence in signing up for instances as a relatively conservative contributor, even while abiding by the terms of service of the instances. Any advice for a conservative Christian trying to find a reddit alter…

https://exploding-heads.com/

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#198

Post by failuser »

finder83 wrote: post #170
failuser wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not join Truth Social, a or other dedicated conservative social network instead?

A few reasons: 1. I appreciate open and friendly discussion with people who don't think like me. The atmosphere, even of /r/conservative is very different than something like truth social. I don't want to be in an echo chamber, and the content from the echo chamber seems tailored to click-bate. i.e. "Watch X DESTROY Y with Logic", or conspiracy theories. I read a variety of news, and I don't need another source for i…

Thanks for a comprehensive reply. There might be a market niche then, but we no longer have infinite VC money to for many attempts to plug it. I think the hardest part here is attracting the right moderators that can tread the line between keeping the conversation civil and not enforcing their opinion, which is harder by the day. Both criteria are very subjective and hard to automate.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#199

Post by grep_name »

finder83 wrote: post #158

My impression (which may be wrong) of Lemmy is that a large number of instances are very pro-censorship and heavily left-leaning. Which of course is reflective of Reddit itself. But it doesn't exactly instill confidence in signing up for instances as a relatively conservative contributor, even while abiding by the terms of service of the instances. Any advice for a conservative Christian trying to find a reddit alter…

My plan is to just add a bunch of instances' local feeds to my rss reader and audit them occasionally to check which I like the most.

I'm thinking of joining fmhy, which isn't the most active but is clear about their federation policy and has only defederated from lemmygrad (which seems to be a major source of posts from the group you're referencing)

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#200

Post by assbuttbuttass »

PestoDiRucola wrote: post #195
assbuttbuttass wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there's a lot of great communities focused on LGBT or politics

> or politics As far as I've noticed those politics discussions boil down to different degrees of reverence for Deng Xiaoping, and if one is slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders you get banned.

No offense, but it's obvious you haven't spent much time in these communities.
Post reply on HN