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> information appeared that several units, including the 45th brigade, refused to leave the barracks against Wagner. By the way, in the Airborne Forces they always sympathized with Prigozhin, - VChK-OGPU
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It's easy to call something a psyop, but have you got a specific reason why this would be done? It's not like that would confuse their enemy in any way, same areas need reclaiming anyway, same troops can be observed. "There's internal conflict" has been known for a while and unless there's practical impact, it doesn't seem to affect what Ukraine needs to do.
Because announcing a coup in advance is stupendously idiotic? Ina traditional coup on MONDAY at 3 am soldiers roll into the TV stations and various government buildings. They announcing a change of government and people turn up to work Monday morning. On Friday evening?! They must be copying the failed Turkey coup that had to move forwards because they were uncovered.
This is a military coup. The army is in Zaporizhia. Moscow is defended by the FSB and national guard. Prigozhin needs to rally disgruntled forces to his side to enable him to move his troops. Quietly maneuvering would hand the narrative to the regime.
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My guess is that either the Ministry of Defense or Putin ordered a hit on Prigohzin. It either failed or he got wind of it. The best way to ensure his own safety at this point is a coup.
The best way to insure his death is also a coup attempt. If he succeeds, he lives (maybe). If he fails, he definitely dies. He still may think that gives him better odds than not attempting the coup does, under current conditions...
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This is all unfolding literally right now. It looks like a military base in Moscow is now on fire. Edit… Also reports of fighting between Wagner and russia's national guard on the Rostov-Moscow highway. Wagner are on the move towards Moscow.
> looks like a military base in Moscow is now on fire Source?
Is there a deal Kyiv can strike with Putin in this moment?
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Ukraine is still receiving weapons. Agaisnt all odds, the west has recognized they had better at least keep the war in Ukraine, not allow Russia to extend their frontiers.
FSB has been mobilized in Moscow and security plan "Fortress" has been enacted to safeguard govt buildings in Moscow. I am getting popcorn.
Prigozhin, via AP Wagner channel, calls for Rosgvardia to join him, or "things will go badly": " The most promising politician appeals to the National Guard (Rosgvardia) with an offer that is better not refused. Obeying criminal orders and attempting to interfere with the planned campaign of Justice will end badly for employees who have made the wrong choice. " https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/167236408681260…
Better known source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-mercenary-boss-...
Hackernewsers knows well I am extremely anti-Russian.
The West massively misunderstands Russia, and how it works on the inside. If you watch CSIS, RAND, Aspen institute, you will see 10 talking heads each talking his own completely different story, and none of them tells more than a Russian highschooler can.
Seeing Westerners instinctively reaching for "the best known source" tells why something like this came as a surprise in the first place, while this exact scenario been a watercooler talk for most Russians, both in Ukraine, and Russia itself.
Why Western experts driving the conversation on Russia, China, etc are completely blind to things known to every highschooler?
The reason is they are all having near zero personal experience outside politics, but Russia has no politics as such. None of them had that visceral back alley survival experience, which shape you for life.
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Because announcing a coup in advance is stupendously idiotic? Ina traditional coup on MONDAY at 3 am soldiers roll into the TV stations and various government buildings. They announcing a change of government and people turn up to work Monday morning. On Friday evening?! They must be copying the failed Turkey coup that had to move forwards because they were uncovered.
> a traditional coup on MONDAY at 3 am soldiers roll into the TV stations and various government buildings This is a military coup. The army is in Zaporizhia. Moscow is defended by the FSB and national guard. Prigozhin needs to rally disgruntled forces to his side to enable him to move his troops. Quietly maneuvering would hand the narrative to the regime.
Might as well see the world end in style.