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Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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> At the current time, the label is positive marketing. In California, maybe? Has a transition to fake meat worked anywhere, commercially?

This would be real meat. Just to be clear 'beyond meat' is a bean that is fermented. This is animal cells grown in a lab.

>This would be real meat.

Ah, you're right, I was confused. Although, "real" might be questionable.

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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At the current time, the label is positive marketing. I'd love to have cruelty free meat.

> At the current time, the label is positive marketing. In California, maybe? Has a transition to fake meat worked anywhere, commercially?

No because it doesn't exist anywhere on a large enough scale yet.

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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Certainly not cruelty free. Arguably less cruel. The extraction of the resources needed to grow the meat shifts a lot of the cruelty to wild animals, not to mention that you still need barnyard animals involved in the process, but the technology is quite neat so it is definitely positive marketing on that end. Being still less efficient to produce, that marketing will also be necessary to compel the buyer to pay more…

When you say extraction, what specifically? Energy? Any specific non-energy resources?

for all mammalian eukaryotic cells ie cow , chicken ,human etc require growth media that contains FBS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum this extracted from the foetus of cattle, otherwise the cells cannot survive outside of the a live mammal. it is not vegan or vegetarian in the slightest

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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Throw me into whatever category we want to call this. If 1 animal dies and all of humanity can stop eating meat, I'm happy to do that. Heck I'd sacrifice myself for such a value. But it sounds like this is a ~1 time prick of an animal, who could be sedated, and after that, you don't need the animal again. I want to be vegan because of cruelty, but not eating meat because it came from a pricked animal 1 time in histor…

> If 1 animal dies and all of humanity can stop eating meat, I'm happy to do that. You still need resources to grow the meat, and many animals will be harmed and killed in the process of extracting those resources. Probably many more animals than would be harmed using traditional meat raising practices as when humans extract resources we like to strip things bare. Other animals tend to be a lot gentler on habitats. O…

I guess you don't use electricity either because of logging and coal mining. What about the internet and all those resources needed for the data centra?

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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I’m curious how other vegetarians and vegans feel about eating lab-grown meat? My gut reaction to this is “yuck, meat” [1]. I’ve been following lab-grown meat for a while and haven’t been able to get over this feeling, and for that reason I don’t think I’ll include it in my diet as a vegetarian. Intellectually I know that no animal was killed to produce it, but after going without meat for so long I just find the tho…

lab grown meat is not vegan as it uses FBS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_bovine_serum) as a growth media for all mammalian cells

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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I’m curious how other vegetarians and vegans feel about eating lab-grown meat? My gut reaction to this is “yuck, meat” [1]. I’ve been following lab-grown meat for a while and haven’t been able to get over this feeling, and for that reason I don’t think I’ll include it in my diet as a vegetarian. Intellectually I know that no animal was killed to produce it, but after going without meat for so long I just find the tho…

I don't think it will be cost-competitive with all other means of turning energy into delicious, meat-like and digestible food.

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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> The company plans to make 50,000 pounds of meat per year there to start, eventually scaling up to more than 400,000 pounds per year.

Doesn't sound like they're planning on things being very popular. I buy >5 lb of chicken every month (family of 4). I imagine bigger families buy more. But let's assume I'm average -- so 50k lbs a year comes out to a little over 800 customers a year. So not a lot. Even their "big" production ends up small at ~6k a year.

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

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I’m curious how other vegetarians and vegans feel about eating lab-grown meat? My gut reaction to this is “yuck, meat” [1]. I’ve been following lab-grown meat for a while and haven’t been able to get over this feeling, and for that reason I don’t think I’ll include it in my diet as a vegetarian. Intellectually I know that no animal was killed to produce it, but after going without meat for so long I just find the tho…

Ironically, my response as an omnivore making the switch to more chicken over beef is “yuck, not meat.” I actually like the vegan (fried) chicken substitutes that are available nowadays as well as stuff like almond cheese that stands on its own.

It’ll take a while to get over the internal resistance to the fact that it’s still basically ultra processed meat substitute. I’ve grown tissue culture in a lab and that does not sound even remotely appetizing to me. It doesn’t even qualify in my mind as a whole food, which is the problem with so many of the vegan substitutes

Re: Lab-Grown Chicken Is Now Legal for Sale in the US

#30

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> If 1 animal dies and all of humanity can stop eating meat, I'm happy to do that. You still need resources to grow the meat, and many animals will be harmed and killed in the process of extracting those resources. Probably many more animals than would be harmed using traditional meat raising practices as when humans extract resources we like to strip things bare. Other animals tend to be a lot gentler on habitats. O…

I guess you don't use electricity either because of logging and coal mining. What about the internet and all those resources needed for the data centra?

Those who abstain from activities that are cruel to animals avoid those things, indeed. Of course we won't hear from them here, for obvious reasons.
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