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Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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similarly, a few days ago I was working on a project with a couple of people and I had our meeting notes in a Google Doc. I went to share the doc with the people and was told that it wouldn't be possible due to "inappropriate content". after a quick scan of the text I realised that it was because the notes contained the word "imagery" - in relation to a logo. once removed, the problem went away, but it's disgusting t…

> not only has Google given themselves the right to scan your documents You agreed to it: "We may review content to determine whether it is illegal or violates our Program Policies, and we may remove or refuse to display content that we reasonably believe violates our policies or the law." https://www.google.com/drive/terms-of-service/?hl=en Their list of policy violations is quite long: https://support.google.com/do…

I highly recommend watching this: https://www.southparkstudios.com/video-clips/mqk1s7/south-pa...

Or more recently, the Black Mirror episode Joan is Awful

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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> The reason given was that purchases made through his links were for personal use or made by friends and family, which he denies He has 1.8 million subscribers and talks about gear. There's no way his affiliate purchases were done by "friends and family" in any significant number above 0.1% to even matter. It's just Amazon payback BS.

Sure but the T&Cs are written such that even the .1% makes him subject to termination and that's kind of the point. If you write the rules (or laws) such that everyone is breaking them but then chose when and how to enforce those laws you can selectively enforce them against specific people or specific kinds of people. You're terminating him for a totally legitimate not-at-all-dystopian reason when obviously the real…

>If you write the rules (or laws) such that everyone is breaking them but then chose when and how to enforce those laws you can selectively enforce them against specific people or specific kinds of people.

This! I've been saying this for so long and I'm glad to see more people saying it.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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There is no unrestrained capitalism. This is the doing of the managerial class, and they managed to get so much power because of central banks. Especially after 2008 the major central banks have bought assets on the stock market and financed all kinds of projects without a second thought. They print money and make companies like amazon huge. This is 100% government 's doing. Total fake economy. In a free market there…

>There is no unrestrained capitalism. This is the doing of the managerial class Who precisely do you think has 90% of the power in 90% of businesses? And before you say 'the shareholders, duh', the venn diagram of the PMC and shareholders of these massive corporations is a circle. The ruling class is the PMC. They run the corporations. How could it be any other way?

The managers have power. They are helped by corporation status (a State creation) and by the fact that when they screw up the central banks print some money and write them a check (of course some schemes are used to hide this process a little bit).

This last bit is the most important. Even if you don't want to blame the managers, profit and loss mechanism is gone, so we are not under capitalism but in a command economy

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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I don't doubt Amazon did this for retaliatory reasons but the wording of the email he received is no doubt a result of the employee tasked with shutting down his account only having a handful of "reason templates" to choose from.

I don’t think this really matters. It’s still the email they sent out and should be held accountable for.

I don't disagree. I just think Amazon's "reason" is essentially irrelevant.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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> Dear Louis Rossmann, our affiliate program is designed to direct positive attention to Amazon. The way you have represented the company in your opinions in how we do business are antithetical to the way we believe we represent ourselves in the world. As a result of this disagreement we will no longer have you as our affiliate. Signed Amazon. Well, it took some underpaid service worker (doing this repetitive work pr…

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Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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Written by AI?

I haven't watched the video and was very happy to have a summary. What makes you question it was written by an AI?

The giveaway for me was the sentence "While not excusing Amazon's actions, he questions whether enough vetting was done before canceling his account." It makes no sense - why would questioning whether enough vetting was done be interpretable by anyone as "excusing Amazon's actions"? It obviously goes in the other direction; the sentence might have read "While not directly condemning Amazon's actions, he questions whether enough vetting was done before canceling his account."

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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So Amazon wrongly accuses some random dude of racism after he says "Excuse me how can i help you" from their robotic doorbell, then bricks all of his amazon smarthome products remotely, then bans this man from their associates program for even making a video about it on youtube after 10 years. Are we living inside of the movie demolition man now? I absolutely hate large corporations. Racism off course is never ok, bu…

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Alternatively the doorbell AI might notice subtle differences in how people of different races, on average, engage him.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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> He believes Amazon is becoming less accountable as it grows in power and treats customers worse. He's right. I have recent first-hand experience of them deleting reviews of counterfeit products. The emails say: "We investigated your concerns about product authenticity, and the information we have indicates that the product you received was authentic." I've tried posting a review a further 4 times, each time only me…

Oof. That is hilarious and maddening. It’s a disturbing trend on any site we rely on or use for services. There is no recourse, once a decision has been made. Last week, I was banned from Facebook Marketplace because… I don’t actually know. I’m cleaning out an old shed and want to sell a bunch of stuff. So, I logged into Facebook for the first time in 2 years, posted a Shop Vac for sale for $50 USD, and an hour later…

The TOS ma offer arbitration? You could try that route

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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Ah yes, the old 'companies are screwing us but it is regulation that is the real problem' argument that seems to disregard everything that reality and history presents. Hint: if you have no evidence of something but believe it because of an underlying philosophy, you should figure out how true it is before arguing its case.

Probably should not diregard the history of harmful regulations while doing so?...

Please take everything into account.

Re: Amazon cancels my account after exposing account lockout for “racist doorbell” [video]

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I unironically have no issue with racists being locked out of their homes. Perhaps with the doorbell robot giving them sarcastic responses to their pleas.

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