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Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

gmerc wrote: post #748
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #615

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than that, one report mentioned the US Navy notified the search teams that they heard an explosion Sunday night and used it to limit the search area. The US Navy has literally has experience detecting underwater explosions (see project Azorian). It's not guaranteed of course, but any loud sound near the point of contact loss seems pretty open shut. Imo, it made a more interesting story in a slow news cycle. How…

600 refugees drowned in the mediterranean and the captain of one of the non profit rescue vessels operating in the mediterranean is facing 20 years in prison. barf.

To be pedantic, it was immigrants, not refugees. It is unnecessary sensationalisation to claim they were refugees.

Unless of course in your point of view anyone that seeks a better future to avoid problems in their own country is a refugee, which could be a point of view but not one I (or dictionaries) agree with.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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can16358p wrote: post #860
housemusicfan wrote: post #847

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This is the attitude you need to give birth to truly innovative ideas like a Bluetooth controller attached to the desktop PC that controlled his hunk of shit submarine that killed everyone on board. He proudly describes it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkytJa0ghc

I do agree with you, though I think BT game controller wasn't a bad idea for two reasons: - Battle-tested and easily replaceable, compared to a custom one. - Cables have a snapping risk in that limited physical space, Bluetooth solves it and there's no risk of EMI 4km underwater anyway. The carbonfiber structure... that's another story. Terrible.

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Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by Hamuko »

mulmen wrote: post #852
housemusicfan wrote: post #847

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the attitude you need to give birth to truly innovative ideas like a Bluetooth controller attached to the desktop PC that controlled his hunk of shit submarine that killed everyone on board. He proudly describes it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkytJa0ghc

Does he ever explain why carbon fiber and bluetooth were improvements over working technology?

I remember seeing a claim that the Bluetooth part was a feature since you could just "pass the controller" inside the cabin but I haven't been able to find a source for it.

As for the carbon fibre:

>OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush says the company had been evaluating the potential of using a carbon fiber composite hull since 2010, primarily because it permits creation of a pressure vessel that is naturally buoyant and, therefore, would enable OceanGate to forgo the use — and the significant expense — of syntactic foam on its exterior. So, for Cyclops 2 OceanGate decided to avoid the metallic hull altogether and began a search for a manufacturer that could help it develop a composite hull.

https://www.compositesworld.com/articles/composite-submersib...

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by N19PEDL2 »

brendamn wrote: post #686
ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #615

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than that, one report mentioned the US Navy notified the search teams that they heard an explosion Sunday night and used it to limit the search area. The US Navy has literally has experience detecting underwater explosions (see project Azorian). It's not guaranteed of course, but any loud sound near the point of contact loss seems pretty open shut. Imo, it made a more interesting story in a slow news cycle. How…

> How many people died in car accidents the last few days? Car accidents (not involving anyone of note) sadly aren’t novel or newsworthy anymore. A submarine, with people potentially trapped onboard, with limited oxygen, as rescue teams race to the dive site, unfolding in real-time, isn’t exactly something that happens that often.

People are intrigued by the unknown, that is, by not knowing what happened to those people and leaving the space open for ideas, conjecture and reasoning. The hype around this case reminds me of that of the disappearance of flight MH370, where there were no celebrities on board.

In contrast, in a traffic accident you almost always know right from the start what happened.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by mulmen »

Hamuko wrote: post #863
mulmen wrote: post #852

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does he ever explain why carbon fiber and bluetooth were improvements over working technology?

I remember seeing a claim that the Bluetooth part was a feature since you could just "pass the controller" inside the cabin but I haven't been able to find a source for it. As for the carbon fibre: > OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush says the company had been evaluating the potential of using a carbon fiber composite hull since 2010, primarily because it permits creation of a pressure vessel that is naturally buoyant and,…

Thanks for the citation.

Handing the controller around smells like marketing wank, especially when you learn they bolted down the shitter and made the controls remote. Seems like an odd tradeoff. I’d be inclined to use a portable toilet or diapers and firmly attach the controls to the sub near the only window. People can still take turns.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by dharmab »

can16358p wrote: post #860
housemusicfan wrote: post #847

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the attitude you need to give birth to truly innovative ideas like a Bluetooth controller attached to the desktop PC that controlled his hunk of shit submarine that killed everyone on board. He proudly describes it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkytJa0ghc

I do agree with you, though I think BT game controller wasn't a bad idea for two reasons: - Battle-tested and easily replaceable, compared to a custom one. - Cables have a snapping risk in that limited physical space, Bluetooth solves it and there's no risk of EMI 4km underwater anyway. The carbonfiber structure... that's another story. Terrible.

The Logitech F710 was not a "battle-tested" controller, it's a cheap third party controller of inferior quality. The official Microsoft controllers have serious R&D behind them, but not the Logitech ones.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by crossroadsguy »

mulmen wrote: post #829

The most troubling thing about this to me is Stockton Rush’s cavalier attitude toward ageism [1]. In considering young college graduates as uniquely “inspirational” he set them up for a lifetime of guilt. I don’t think age or race has any place in inspirational calculus. I’m uncomfortable with how comfortably he dismisses submariner veterans as “old white guys”. Engineering is a discipline that requires experience an…

He might as well have said I couldn't inspire a 60 year old veteran in the field to work for me like a slave for pittance of a salary.

In engineering experience and precision and discipline matters a lot.

OTOH I hope he still is alive somewhere somehow down there and gets rescued, but he does speak like a douchustler.

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by x3874 »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #709
x3874 wrote: post #191

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Yet, there still are Teslas with comparable issues on the road, maiming unsuspecting people.

What comparable issues? I thought Teslas had good safety.

Are you intentionally trolling or are you really restricted in your awareness?

'FSD' scam killing people and the myriads other problems aside:

1. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/we-need-to-talk-about-tes...

2. https://www.slashgear.com/1075194/whats-up-with-teslas-whomp... https://www.flickr.com/photos/136377865@N05/albums/721576584...

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by jnsaff2 »

mulmen wrote: post #829

The most troubling thing about this to me is Stockton Rush’s cavalier attitude toward ageism [1]. In considering young college graduates as uniquely “inspirational” he set them up for a lifetime of guilt. I don’t think age or race has any place in inspirational calculus. I’m uncomfortable with how comfortably he dismisses submariner veterans as “old white guys”. Engineering is a discipline that requires experience an…

As someone said: "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old-bold pilots!"

Re: Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

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Post by rmaiti »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #867
mulmen wrote: post #829

The most troubling thing about this to me is Stockton Rush’s cavalier attitude toward ageism [1]. In considering young college graduates as uniquely “inspirational” he set them up for a lifetime of guilt. I don’t think age or race has any place in inspirational calculus. I’m uncomfortable with how comfortably he dismisses submariner veterans as “old white guys”. Engineering is a discipline that requires experience an…

He might as well have said I couldn't inspire a 60 year old veteran in the field to work for me like a slave for pittance of a salary. In engineering experience and precision and discipline matters a lot. OTOH I hope he still is alive somewhere somehow down there and gets rescued, but he does speak like a douchustler.

The submarine imploded, so that is VERY unlikely.
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