Debris found came from missing Titan sub, says friend of passengers

Post by adql » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 11:36 PM UTC

bilekas wrote: post #574

accrual wrote: post #157

Here are a couple of quotes I pulled from the USCG press release: > "debris is consistent with a catastrophic implosion of the vessel" > "1600 feet (487 meters) from the wreck of the Titanic" > "it is a smooth bottom", "there is no wreckage of the Titanic in the area" > "size of the debris field is consistent with an implosion in the water column" > "there doesn't seem to be any connection between the noises and the…

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Post by masfuerte » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 11:40 PM UTC

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3ygun wrote: post #276

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Was interested by this comment and wanted to note a few things. The Titan is significantly smaller (in terms of length ~1/10th the size although obviously displacement is the real measure)[1][2]. And the depth of the implosion is about 4x deeper[1][3]. So there are things that could definitely affect the sound signature. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_San_Juan_(S-42) [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_…

Yes, and as far as I can tell it's not even certain that what was picked up from the San Juan was an implosion. But on the other hand, the Polar Prince was sitting right on top of the Titan listening for pings, and apparently it didn't hear anything. I'm not suggesting anything nefarious, I'm just hoping someone who understands these things better than I do comes along.

Post by failuser » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 11:42 PM UTC

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Part of me has been wondering if the noises being heard might be an unexpected discovery of a military (Russian, Chinese, US) submarine operating in the general area. Don’t they submerge for long periods of time without comms?

They do, but not the depths we're talking about (12,500 feet) https://navalpost.com/how-deep-can-a-submarine-dive/ The depth limits of the most known nuclear powered submarines’ depth limits, as follows; Typhoon-class: Test depth 900 m (3,000 ft) Astute-class: Over 300 m (984 ft 3 in) Akula-class: 480 m (1,570 ft) test depth for Akula I and Akula I Improved, 520 m (1,710 ft) for Akula II and III, 600 m (2,000 ft) max…

Post by chrononaut » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 11:44 PM UTC

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And the 19 year old who didn't want to go on the submarine but wanted to spend time with his dad? Was he reckless? Was he worth searching for?

Do we know he did not want to go?

Post by vkou » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 11:46 PM UTC

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