In a weird way, this is almost relieving. The speculation that they were suffocated and entombed in their own filth somewhere on the ocean as they died slowly seemed so, so much worse.
I mean, unless it imploded after a horrible fire or something.
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Somewhere a redditor did the math and I believe it would have taken 24ms for the glass to break and the water to rush in. Instant death if it was indeed the glass.
The porthole windows on deep submersibles are conical plugs. They don't break. Either a seal leaked or the carbon fiber failed.
Maybe on competently assembled subs. All bets are off on this one.
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#123You save up on money ignoring safety, next you fire the guy who could had saved your life, and finally you suffer disasters ending your life. https://www.forbes.com/sites/katherinehamilton/2023/06/21/oc... Money addicts, take notes. This is what happens when you put money cartels before real life physics.
This is what I try to impress on anyone who thinks “saving money” on tires is a frugal way of living.
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this "scoffing at safety and regulation" shit being seen as "hip, cool and rebellious" and somehow a desirable trait is actually completely fucking bonkers to me. Careful analysis and engineering to make things as safe as possible and well characterized is incredibly rewarding and satisfying.
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Many lives and resources were also involved in the rescue operation.
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#125In a weird way, this is almost relieving. The speculation that they were suffocated and entombed in their own filth somewhere on the ocean as they died slowly seemed so, so much worse.
What would be worse a catastrophic collapse deep down in the sea or a sudden depressurization high above in the sky around the Armstrong limit?
Implosion at 400 atm probably takes a fraction of a second, with catastrophic decompression of 1 atm you’ll be conscious probably for about a minute.
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this "scoffing at safety and regulation" shit being seen as "hip, cool and rebellious" and somehow a desirable trait is actually completely fucking bonkers to me. Careful analysis and engineering to make things as safe as possible and well characterized is incredibly rewarding and satisfying.
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Two things.
1 - it's not as if he made an experimental unsafe submarine and then killed himself in it. It's as though he made an experimental, unsafe submarine that many people told him was unsafe and unsuitable to dive at that depth at a minimum, but really unsafe to dive at any depth and then told people that it was safe and good to go, and then sold seats on it before even properly testing it.
2 - they have caused the taxpayers of several countries to foot the bill of this hugely expensive rescue operation, with no plan or way to pay it back.
It's not right for innocent people to bear the burden of this person's irresponsible negligence, both with their lives in the case of the passengers, and with their tax dollars in the case of us taxpayers
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i understand what you are basing your statement on (a cleaner version would be asphyxiation by breathing an inert gas) but you are very wrong. as a matter of fact people with an impaired amygdala who can't experience fear will panic when forced to breathe co2. also your breathing will get very shallow and cause co2 to accumulate triggering those very receptors you argue will stay silent. https://www.nature.com/articl…
You are arguing for the exact same thing as the person you’re replying to—while attempting to disagree with them. They said that provided you can keep CO2 levels down, lack of oxygen will cause drowsiness and cause you to pass out. This is true. You then argued that breathing increased levels of CO2 will trigger survival instincts. This is also true, and exactly what grandparent said.
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The comment you're replying to only mentions other people dying, not the billionaire. Second, the search and rescue effort involved a lot of government people and equipment, and the company complained that they weren't doing enough.
As a US taxpayer I would like to lodge a formal complaint to the company - you didn't do enough to make this safe, and have contingency plans in place
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#129No idea why every single journalist kept forcing the "air remaining" theme. It was far more likely that the sub suffered a catastrophic implosion at the time contact was lost. Glad to see it confirmed, and finally people stop posting the nonsense about air. Shame about the passengers though.
I hate how everything journalists do has to be framed so negatively. "Forcing"? "Keeping the audience engaged" (from the replies)? They were just reporting how much air is left, in the case that they were alive - not insisting that they definitely are alive. It's an obvious thing to want to know, and an obvious thing to report. I'm sure some outlets ham it up, yeah of course. But anybody would report that information…
I agree. They're just people, doing their job. Their job is to write articles that people click on. We choose what we click on. If you want to see better journalism click on better things collectively. They're a cog in the machine, not the driver of the machine
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#130No idea why every single journalist kept forcing the "air remaining" theme. It was far more likely that the sub suffered a catastrophic implosion at the time contact was lost. Glad to see it confirmed, and finally people stop posting the nonsense about air. Shame about the passengers though.
Hope