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Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by Buttons840 »

joegahona wrote: post #17
legitster wrote: post #10

In a weird way, this is almost relieving. The speculation that they were suffocated and entombed in their own filth somewhere on the ocean as they died slowly seemed so, so much worse.

Just thinking about that outcome yesterday caused my blood pressure to skyrocket. Dark, cold, cramped, fetid, hungry, thirsty, knowing oxygen is running out.

In that scenario, as long as they could keep CO2 levels down, running out of oxygen isn't so bad (ignoring the other troubles). The human body can't detect a lack of oxygen, you just get tired and light headed and pass out.

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

giarc wrote: post #38
legitster wrote: post #10

In a weird way, this is almost relieving. The speculation that they were suffocated and entombed in their own filth somewhere on the ocean as they died slowly seemed so, so much worse.

Somewhere a redditor did the math and I believe it would have taken 24ms for the glass to break and the water to rush in. Instant death if it was indeed the glass.

Just how instant is that death? Do you die from quickly drowning in the water or is the water pressure enough to also crush your skull quick enough to make sure you die without having the chance to feel anything?

Guillotined people can still be alive and feel about 30 second safter their head has been removed from their body.

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by Gwypaas »

mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #9

The outcome everyone knew would happen. I don't understand the desire to go to that depth to see a sunken ship when I presume there is camera footage of it available. You can't get out and do anything, your view is probably pretty crappy given the thickness of any see through material. I see the allure with Everest and the view for your 60 seconds at the top must be impressive and it is a physical feat. But a sunken…

There is a difference to seeing it yourself. Hugely different.

Getting a submarine certified to commercially dive it is another magnitude of cost compared to this venture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSV_Limiting_Factor

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by hatsunearu »

just_steve_h wrote: post #25

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this "scoffing at safety and regulation" shit being seen as "hip, cool and rebellious" and somehow a desirable trait is actually completely fucking bonkers to me.

Careful analysis and engineering to make things as safe as possible and well characterized is incredibly rewarding and satisfying.

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

giarc wrote: post #38
legitster wrote: post #10

In a weird way, this is almost relieving. The speculation that they were suffocated and entombed in their own filth somewhere on the ocean as they died slowly seemed so, so much worse.

Somewhere a redditor did the math and I believe it would have taken 24ms for the glass to break and the water to rush in. Instant death if it was indeed the glass.

The porthole windows on deep submersibles are conical plugs. They don't break. Either a seal leaked or the carbon fiber failed.

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by on3twothr33 »

ranting-moth wrote: post #30

How long can you survive in a 4000 psi water pressure, going suddenly from atmospheric pressure?

Less than a millisecond. Water at that pressure could slice steel in half. The heat from the explosion would be equal to that off the sun. It would probably one of the quickest ways to die, frankly.

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by no1groyp »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #42
giarc wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somewhere a redditor did the math and I believe it would have taken 24ms for the glass to break and the water to rush in. Instant death if it was indeed the glass.

Just how instant is that death? Do you die from quickly drowning in the water or is the water pressure enough to also crush your skull quick enough to make sure you die without having the chance to feel anything? Guillotined people can still be alive and feel about 30 second safter their head has been removed from their body.

Lungs collapse instantly

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by krona »

ranting-moth wrote: post #30

How long can you survive in a 4000 psi water pressure, going suddenly from atmospheric pressure?

The air in your lungs presumably becomes extremely hot. I'm not sure how hot. Perhaps you explode instantly before the implosion scatters you a considerable distance.

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

smoe wrote: post #34
mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #9

The outcome everyone knew would happen. I don't understand the desire to go to that depth to see a sunken ship when I presume there is camera footage of it available. You can't get out and do anything, your view is probably pretty crappy given the thickness of any see through material. I see the allure with Everest and the view for your 60 seconds at the top must be impressive and it is a physical feat. But a sunken…

> It would be pretty cool to send down a camera to get footage all around it at various angles and then build an app for a VR headset. Recently they published a full 3d scan of the Titanic wreck constructed from 700,000 images taken. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-65602182

That looks incredible. Would be really cool to explore in VR.

Re: Debris Field Confirmed as Titan

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Post by beAbU »

ranting-moth wrote: post #30

How long can you survive in a 4000 psi water pressure, going suddenly from atmospheric pressure?

I don't think you do. Outside pressure is almost 400x the inside pressure.

The implosion must have been very very violent and sudden. Being surrounded by carbon fibre and titantium means all that material and your body is trying occupy the same space.

I think it happened fast enough that nobody realized or felt what was happening.

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