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Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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Abortion is not killing, abortion is healthcare. Yes, I realize one's set of values will create disagreement on this, I'm not trying to build consensus here, but can't let such a statement about "killing" go uncommented on.

Most abortions are not healthcare.

All abortions are healthcare. Not every abortion is required to save the mothers life, but that doesn't mean it's not healthcare.

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False equivalence. Killing something and trying to stop someone from killing something is not the same.

False equivalence. It's not false equivalence just because you don't like what the comparison says about your stance on an issue. Pro-life stances are mainly about virtue-signaling anyways.

> Pro-life stances are mainly about virtue-signaling anyways.

Anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ+ stuff, anti-vaxx, anti-CRT (US specific), pro-Putin; often these seem just shibboleths to signal group membership.

Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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What services does an "anti-abortion clinic" even offer? Sounds a little oxymoronic to me.

They lie to vulnerable women about imagined dangers of the procedure like infertility and cancer to trick them into keeping the pregnancy.

Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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What services does an "anti-abortion clinic" even offer? Sounds a little oxymoronic to me.

I guess they could try to convince the woman not to have an abortion, provide vitamins and adoption help? The customer is ready to abort, so presumably less likely than average to be ready for parenthood, so you can think of plenty of resources to give them (fwiw, I’m not defending the idea of anti-abortion clinics, the concept of which I find pretty odious, but just saying it is easy to imagine the sorts of services they ought to supply).

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I just googled GitHub and the top results were ads for circleci and gitlab. Buying ads for competitors keywords is extremely normal. Gitlab would love to dissuade me from using GitHub, just as a crisis pregnancy center would love to dissuade me from getting an abortion.

In what way are these situations comparable? If you google GitHub you’re probably looking for source control. GitLab offers source control. If you google “abortion providers” you’re looking to get an abortion. The ads you see are specifically for people who want to look like abortion providers but actually seek to stop you from getting one and don’t provide any abortion services at all. It’s like googling GitHub and…

I want to think that people who google abortion providers don't want their babies killed, they simply need help, one way or another

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This conversation is about ethics. Google has no ethical obligation to help GitHub outcompete Gitlab; but it does have an ethical obligation to prevent anti-abortion centers from using Google services to trick young women into a lifetime of difficulty and poverty by misrepresenting themselves as medical providers. And what is more, we have an ethical obligations as Google's users and customers to force Google to beha…

Abortion is a complex and controversial issue. Google does not have an obligation to only show pro-choice material when searching abortion, because that would be a form of censorship and bias that would violate its own principles of neutrality and diversity. I am not persuaded by your argument that these search results will harm users.

Abortion is a complex and controversial issue for one religion and one political party. If every religion or political party’s “complexities” need to affect MY google searches at that point it will likely need to look like some castrated caricature of a page trying to answer the actual question I asked.

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Maybe NPR is well-intended here...but stuff like "calling on legislators to ban misleading advertising" is about as realistic as calling on Donald Trump to endorse Bernie Sanders. Google's obvious for-profit strategy is to talk up their half-hearted Whack-a-Mole efforts, while raking in the ad revenue. Giving the story a second skim... There's plenty of talk about the difficulties of getting accurate information and…

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Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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> facilities that use various tactics to dissuade or delay pregnant people from getting an abortion. These "tactics" include the heinous acts of providing emotional support, helping give mother's in need access to local resources, providing food and clothing, and more despicable alternatives to the ending of a child's life.

Your argument contain assumption that we are talking about child. Whole abortion debate comes down to defining what and when we can call fetus a human.Nobody wants to kill childrens. What you are doing is emotional blackmail. I know that 1 hour or 1 day after conception there is no child yet. 10 weeks later we have human with already developed central nervous system. It all comes down to defining when a group of cell…

A unique member of the human species exists from the moment of conception.

Also, even if you disagree with my position that all humans have a right to life that still doesn't make a crisis pregnancy center which offers alternatives to abortion a bad thing, they're giving resources to help people not feel pressured to make an irreversible medical decision.

Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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Abortion is not killing, abortion is healthcare. Yes, I realize one's set of values will create disagreement on this, I'm not trying to build consensus here, but can't let such a statement about "killing" go uncommented on.

Abortion as "birth control" is killing. That is not health care.

Abortion as "birth control" is killing. That is not health care.

It's absolutely healthcare, as much as your virtue-signaling wants to pretend otherwise.

Re: Googling 'abortion clinic near me'? The top result often an anti-abortion clinic

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What services does an "anti-abortion clinic" even offer? Sounds a little oxymoronic to me.

It’s basically volunteer counseling for expectant mothers who are in trouble. They usually provide a free ultrasound, parenting education, and help finding community resources for financial issues and for adoption. They are anti-abortion because they will not refer to an abortion clinic.

Since Roe was repealed, red states are driving abortion clinics out of business and blue states are driving these centers out of business.

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