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Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by rglullis »

Stephen304 wrote: post #23
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, until you google some error, or some other random thing, find some thread somewhere, want to comment/ask/contribute, and you can't, since the registrations are locked.

I'm on kbin.social and participate in communities across ~20ish other instances regardless of whether they've turned off registrations temporarily or permanently. Disabling registrations only prevents new accounts on that instance, it doesn't stop people from posting and commenting from other instances.

Parent comment is the perfect example of how we got so used with dealing with shitty and user-hostile systems. We've been dealing with walled gardens for almost a generation now, it's like they don't even understand that it is possible to interact with a remote system without having everything in one centralized database.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by FullstakBlogger »

lemmy.world, for whatever reason, absolutely guzzles CPU cycles. I can't imagine what it could possibly need to do that requires executing that much javascript. It's all minimized, so it's hard to follow in the profiler.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by jbm »

camdenlock wrote: post #18

Took a look at mastodon.world out of curiosity. Total conformity of belief on the entire front page timeline. Maybe it’s another one of those Mastodon instances where anti-capitalist social justice is the approved dogma, and dissenters are banned? Seems to be a lot of those…

Sorry to see you are being downvoted for making an observation.

I have been looking across various Lemmy instances and I recall seeing one or two that was cyberpunk-based or technology-focused in their local streams, but far too many have the "smug American Liberal" [1] style comments that made me leave Reddit [2].

Simply spinning up another community is not a quick fix either. Concern trolling means Centrist communities simply do not last, as they eventually get overrun by extremists of one kind of another. It's far, far too easy to take a complex argument and have it dishonestly re-interpreted in a negative way as a a one line meme in public communities. Weeding these people out is far more of a challenge than banning violent remarks, racists and child abusers, as well-meaning people will inevitably misunderstand.

The solution to this is small private communities and group chats with people you trust, personally. You won't get the hit from having constant content to consume, but it's not as bad for you; getting in the door is the real problem.

[1] https://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberal... [2] Signing up for an account because the defaults are crazy is not a viable solution

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by IceSentry »

rglullis wrote: post #9
gareve wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

with some basic extrapolation, at how many users they'll hit the extra expensive Hertzner servers? or in other words, at which point they'll need to improve their architecture?

I honestly wish that the answer is "when we get so big to the point that a single machine can not handle it, we close registrations". Can we please drop the "number must go up" mentality? The whole point of federated systems is to avoid concentration of power in a handful of servers. I'm sure that the people doing there have good intentions, but why can't we just let things just a little bit dispersed ?

I still prefer a handful of instances compared to the current state of resdit where it's all or nothing.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by vorpalhex »

jbm wrote: post #33
camdenlock wrote: post #18

Took a look at mastodon.world out of curiosity. Total conformity of belief on the entire front page timeline. Maybe it’s another one of those Mastodon instances where anti-capitalist social justice is the approved dogma, and dissenters are banned? Seems to be a lot of those…

Sorry to see you are being downvoted for making an observation. I have been looking across various Lemmy instances and I recall seeing one or two that was cyberpunk-based or technology-focused in their local streams, but far too many have the "smug American Liberal" [1] style comments that made me leave Reddit [2]. Simply spinning up another community is not a quick fix either. Concern trolling means Centrist communi…

A community is like a garden. You can weed it aggressively and cultivate only certain things, or do nothing and let it go wild.

I have found communities that cultivate for good discourse seem to end up the most balanced, but also attract lots of enemies.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by pentagrama »

> I started paying for the Lemmy cloud servers from the mastodon.world funds.

Did this person ask to the mastodon.world Patreon [1] and Open Collective [2] supporters that he was going to use money for other project? If not, seems disingenuous to me.

[1] https://www.patreon.com/mastodonworld

[2] https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by Gigachad »

tuchsen wrote: post #21
tester457 wrote: post #7

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Same. However it seems most people don't like the old.reddit look, only 4% of redditors use it. Most people are content with the slow bloated new reddit. When redditors talked about what sites to migrate to most of them preferred the modern interfaces over text based ones like tildes.net.

I wonder how much this has to do with the devices people use to access Reddit. I always preferred the old.reddit site on the desktop. Although when I'm on my phone, it gave me eye strain to try and read the tiny font, and pinch/zooming all the time is super annoying. The newer Reddit web app was still incredibly annoying, given all the "install the desktop app" prompts, and it's general lagginess, but allowing me to…

I don’t think there is anything visually wrong with the new reddit. My issue is with how slow and buggy it is. And all the dark patterns and engagement tricks it’s full of.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by tedunangst »

dragontamer wrote: post #24
gareve wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

with some basic extrapolation, at how many users they'll hit the extra expensive Hertzner servers? or in other words, at which point they'll need to improve their architecture?

1TB RAM Hertzner servers are available, so at least 8x more scaling before that's a problem. 2TB RAM is common in commodity servers, albeit expensive ones ($1000ish/month). Somewhere between 4TB to 20TB RAM is the pragmatic limit (where costs for vertical scaling start to get far worse)

Is RAM still the limiting factor at that scale? Are you assuming 256 CPU cores?

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by dragontamer »

tedunangst wrote: post #39
dragontamer wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1TB RAM Hertzner servers are available, so at least 8x more scaling before that's a problem. 2TB RAM is common in commodity servers, albeit expensive ones ($1000ish/month). Somewhere between 4TB to 20TB RAM is the pragmatic limit (where costs for vertical scaling start to get far worse)

Is RAM still the limiting factor at that scale? Are you assuming 256 CPU cores?

Current theory is that Lemmy software is mostly RAM limited.

No one knows for sure until we reach those caps.

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