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Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by tuchsen »

tester457 wrote: post #7
eigenspace wrote: post #3

I wish Lemmy's default design was more of a copy of old.reddit.com. For me, that design was better than both HackerNews' design and way better than the current default look of Lemmy instances.

Same. However it seems most people don't like the old.reddit look, only 4% of redditors use it. Most people are content with the slow bloated new reddit. When redditors talked about what sites to migrate to most of them preferred the modern interfaces over text based ones like tildes.net.

I wonder how much this has to do with the devices people use to access Reddit. I always preferred the old.reddit site on the desktop. Although when I'm on my phone, it gave me eye strain to try and read the tiny font, and pinch/zooming all the time is super annoying. The newer Reddit web app was still incredibly annoying, given all the "install the desktop app" prompts, and it's general lagginess, but allowing me to just flick scroll through articles was actually better for me.

Lemmy's the same way for me, hate the UI on the desktop but it's fine on my phone.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by Arn_Thor »

yosito wrote: post #19
camdenlock wrote: post #18

Took a look at mastodon.world out of curiosity. Total conformity of belief on the entire front page timeline. Maybe it’s another one of those Mastodon instances where anti-capitalist social justice is the approved dogma, and dissenters are banned? Seems to be a lot of those…

The beauty of Mastodon is that you can set up your own server if you don't like how someone else runs theirs!

A sort of “safe space”, if you will

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by Stephen304 »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #20
rglullis wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly wish that the answer is "when we get so big to the point that a single machine can not handle it, we close registrations". Can we please drop the "number must go up" mentality? The whole point of federated systems is to avoid concentration of power in a handful of servers. I'm sure that the people doing there have good intentions, but why can't we just let things just a little bit dispersed ?

Sure, until you google some error, or some other random thing, find some thread somewhere, want to comment/ask/contribute, and you can't, since the registrations are locked.

I'm on kbin.social and participate in communities across ~20ish other instances regardless of whether they've turned off registrations temporarily or permanently. Disabling registrations only prevents new accounts on that instance, it doesn't stop people from posting and commenting from other instances.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by dragontamer »

gareve wrote: post #4
dragontamer wrote: post #2

There were some Lemmy-related discussions going on this past weekend. I think this is the one tidbit everyone around Hacker News wants to know: > The current VPS couldn't be resized that much anymore, and load was going up with all the new users. So I bought the same server at Hetzner: a 32-core/64 thread 128GB RAM dedicated server. (For Mastodon, I doubled the RAM. For Lemmy I don't think it's needed yet.) I migrate…

with some basic extrapolation, at how many users they'll hit the extra expensive Hertzner servers? or in other words, at which point they'll need to improve their architecture?

1TB RAM Hertzner servers are available, so at least 8x more scaling before that's a problem.

2TB RAM is common in commodity servers, albeit expensive ones ($1000ish/month). Somewhere between 4TB to 20TB RAM is the pragmatic limit (where costs for vertical scaling start to get far worse)

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by neardeaf »

class4behavior wrote: post #15
eigenspace wrote: post #3

I wish Lemmy's default design was more of a copy of old.reddit.com. For me, that design was better than both HackerNews' design and way better than the current default look of Lemmy instances.

Well, there is this: https://github.com/soundjester/lemmy_monkey

This already looks way better

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by jacooper »

eigenspace wrote: post #3

I wish Lemmy's default design was more of a copy of old.reddit.com. For me, that design was better than both HackerNews' design and way better than the current default look of Lemmy instances.

No, please no, if Lemmy looked like old.reddit no body will ever use it. There are custom themes, but it should be never the default.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by dragontamer »

zmmmmm wrote: post #5
gareve wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

with some basic extrapolation, at how many users they'll hit the extra expensive Hertzner servers? or in other words, at which point they'll need to improve their architecture?

it'll be interesting to see if at that point, federation starts to become the way of scaling or not. If it was seamless, it wouldn't matter where you signed up and they could just host multiple lemmy instances on different servers. So far I have rather spotty experiences though with content sometimes making it to federated servers, sometimes not etc etc.

User scaling seems easy enough.

Its "community" (on Lemmy), or "magazine" (on kbin) scaling that seems hard.

But since each server has a local-copy of the community that its serving out, maybe the hardest part has already been solved by the Federation model. Each federated-instance is effectively a proxy / front-end for the users on that instance.

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I guess Mastodon is way larger than Lemmy though and they haven't had issues yet.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by kstrauser »

camdenlock wrote: post #18

Took a look at mastodon.world out of curiosity. Total conformity of belief on the entire front page timeline. Maybe it’s another one of those Mastodon instances where anti-capitalist social justice is the approved dogma, and dissenters are banned? Seems to be a lot of those…

I run such a Mastodon instance. Go build your own and compete with me for users if you think there’s a demand for it.

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by aerio »

Narishma wrote: post #17
tester457 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. However it seems most people don't like the old.reddit look, only 4% of redditors use it. Most people are content with the slow bloated new reddit. When redditors talked about what sites to migrate to most of them preferred the modern interfaces over text based ones like tildes.net.

How many even know that old.reddit exists?

5%

Re: Welcome Lemmy.world

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Post by handsclean »

tester457 wrote: post #7
eigenspace wrote: post #3

I wish Lemmy's default design was more of a copy of old.reddit.com. For me, that design was better than both HackerNews' design and way better than the current default look of Lemmy instances.

Same. However it seems most people don't like the old.reddit look, only 4% of redditors use it. Most people are content with the slow bloated new reddit. When redditors talked about what sites to migrate to most of them preferred the modern interfaces over text based ones like tildes.net.

4% usage doesn’t mean only 4% prefer it. It’s a buried setting that’s default off, that alone makes the choice for ballpark 80%. It doesn’t support mobile, which drops another huge segment, and it doesn’t support “new” features like images and tags, and Reddit spent years aggressively pushing everybody to switch. I wouldn’t be surprised if 4% is the vast majority of Redditors who actually tried both and had the opportunity to choose.
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