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Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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Take a moment and go scroll through the examples at civitai.com. Does most of them strike you as something by people with jobs? Most of them are pretty juvenile, with pretty women and various anime girls.

Are you under the impression that people with jobs don't like pretty women and anime girls?

Of course not, but it looks like a teenage boy's room.

Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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Take a moment and go scroll through the examples at civitai.com. Does most of them strike you as something by people with jobs? Most of them are pretty juvenile, with pretty women and various anime girls.

Are you under the impression that people with jobs don't like pretty women and anime girls?

An operative word here is people.... the set "people with jobs" contains a far higher fraction of folks who like attractive men than is represented here....

Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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I am sure you're right, but "if you know what you're doing" does a lot of heavy lifting here. We could just as easily say "hosting your own email can be set up in a few minutes if you know what you're doing". I could do that, but I couldn't get local SD to generate comparable images if my life depended on it.

If you have an apple device, there is free GUI for Stable Diffusion called "Draw Things. It is nice and it just works. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/6444050820 screenshot of the options interface: https://stash.cass.xyz/drawthings-1687292611.png

Wow. It's both amazing and for some reason horrifying that this can run on an iPhone 11 (non-pro), and at reasonable speeds!

Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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Here is what the haunted house looks like with Dall-E ~3 (Bing Image Creator): https://www.bing.com/images/create/a-haunted-house-with-ghos...

Generally, this model is much better than Dall-E 2, and it beats Firefly in some areas (I didn't try Midjourney or Stable Diffusion). Firefly usually produces photos with significantly fewer visual mistakes (like the wrong number of fingers or messed up faces) than the Bing Dall-E. But the latter usually understands prompts much better and more often produces something that matches it well. Firefly also doesn't "know" a lot of pop culture or history things, e.g. Marilyn Monroe, or what Coca-Cola is.

Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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Are you using txt2img with the vanilla model? SD's actual value is in the large array of higher-order input methods and tooling; as a tradeoff, it requires more knowledge. Similarly to 3D CGI, it's a highly technical area. You don't just enter the prompt with it. You can finetune it on your own material, or choose one of the hundreds of public finetuned models. You can guide it in a precise manner with a sketch or by…

Is there a coherent resource (not a scattered 'just google it' series of guides from all over the place) that encapsulates some of the concepts and workflows you're describing? What would be the best learning site/resource for arriving at understanding how to integrate and manipulate SD with precision like that? Thanks

I have found http://stable-diffusion-art.com to be an absolutely invaluable (and coherent) resource. It's highly ranked on Google for most "how to do X with stable diffusion" style searches, too.

Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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Amazing how quickly Dalle-2 went from among the best image transformers to among the worst.

OpenAI screwed up that one by trying to control it. StableDiffusion on the other hand, gives me hope that AI can be high quality and open(not only in name).

Can't wait to have something like StableDiffusion but for LLMs.

Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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For reference, here's what you can get with a properly tweaked Stable Diffusion, all running locally on my PC. Can be set up on almost any PC with a mid range GPU in a few minutes if you know what you're doing. I didn't do any cherry picking; this is the first thing it generated. 4 images per prompt. 1st prompt: https://i.postimg.cc/T3nZ9bQy/1st.png 2nd prompt: https://i.postimg.cc/XNFm3dSs/2nd.png 3rd prompt: https:…

Those are amazing, please consider writing a blog post of the steps you did to install and tweak Stable Diffusion to achieve these results. I'm sure many of us would love to read it.

Re: Comparing Adobe Firefly, Dalle-2, and OpenJourney

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not sure this is a good comparison. midjourney likes much shorter prompts, and honestly they're all absolutely terrible for anything that isn't 'photo' based. E.g. ask it to generate a word bubble of the most common programming languages and it will fail every time, no matter what you try. I love it for photo stuff, but for photoshop you'd expect it to be able to do other things as well.

In my first few hours with DiffusionBee I made a couple of very credible semi-abstract portraits by mashing up the styles of unrelated artists. And some splashy watercolours. And some logo line art.

And the inevitable booby cheesy rendered forest fairy.

I don't think they're terrible at all. They absolutely can make original art with decent production values.

They can't write text yet, but I'm sure that's coming soon.

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