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YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

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Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#81
post #54

youtube is quickly approaching feature parity with mid 2000s youtube. Same for Google maps and even Gmail.

I can't wait for them to bring back the old related videos list. When is the last time you've heard someone use the term "youtube rabbit hole"? The effect is so lost, people who never experienced it don't even use the term wrongly to describe how things are now.

Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#82

Relevant tweet by YouTube CEO: https://twitter.com/nealmohan/status/1655999215515074561

It's astounding that such a simple feature was dropped, firstly, and then got a re-launch mentioned by the CEO himself "after hearing some great feedback"... it's just a sorting order, honestly this should have never been removed. Those big platforms really got to go.

Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#83
post #27

Great. Can we get Amazon to have price sorting work too please? And have it actually accurately show cost per unit across similar products? I have to believe it's deliberately broken in both cases which is fucking annoying.

TIL...that Privacy Badger extension and uBlock Origin affect the "Sort by" options in Amazon! I have disabled both of them and got my results properly sorted by "Price: Low to High" while with both extensions on, it defaults to Featured!

I tested in Safari with no extensions, and it's showing a $32 and $19 tub of protein powder mixed in the middle of the $12 ones. It then jumps from $15 to sponsored ones that are $50 to $60. It also about 25% items with zero price at all (like key chains that no one likely wants to buy when searching for protein powder) and requires several clicks to see it available from an "Other Seller". This is a total shit experience and Amazon knows it.

Comparing to FF with both those extensions, the items and their order look identical (minus some ads)

Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is false information, ublock origin doesn't affect 'Sort by' feature.

It does affect it, at least under Firefox; check your web developer tools. Here's a tiny portion of a massive error message: Error logged with the Track&Report JS errors API(http://tiny/1covqr6l8/wamazindeClieUserJava): {"m":"undefined Unknown error","name":"Error","csm":"v5 ueLogError stack","logLevel":"ERROR","attribution":"APE-safeframe","pageURL":"https://www.amazon.com/s?k=mastering+perl&s=price-asc-rank&ds=v1%3…

That error message and associated scripts have nothing to do with displaying items or sorting them. It is pretty clearly at first glance some JS used to track and provide analytics.

Re: YouTube: Sort by oldest is back baby

#86
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with dislike counting is that the customers of Youtube (advertisers) do not want it, because they are spooked to have their ads associated with perceived negativity.

This is always the excuse thrown around. It just doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm not on Nike, Coke or mega-corp advertising level, but I do spend a lot with google's advertising apparatus, including on youtube-based adverts - not one time have I cared about how controversial or whatever a video might be. I simply want engagement from in-market potential customers... regardless of what content they're watching. Who a…

Journalists both have an incentive to generate a story, and potentially harm a competitor in the ad selling space. So they find as controversial of a video they can find (possibly with really low view counts), start a screen recorder, then hit refresh until a major brand's ad shows up before the video. Now they can run a headline like "Nike financially supports pro-genocide content on YouTube".

It's not an entirely unfair thing either. That is something that is happening, just in miniscule amounts. So YouTube introduced brand safety options which predict how safe a video is and avoids such potential headlines.

However since it's just an algorithm, it doesn't understand nuance. So now creators who are making educational content about tough subjects earn less money because they are bucketed as unsafe. Since unsafe content has less advertising biders, it earns less money.

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