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Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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Re: Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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The US Navy uses an Xbox 360 controller in active service [0] Mass market has a lot of R&D to leverage so it makes sense. Nothing to say this is the cause of the fault and probably going to be more reliable than something hand rolled. [0] https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/19/16333376/us-navy-military...

The issue most people on Reddit were discussing is that it’s a cheap off brand controller, rather than a higher quality name brand controller (from Sony or Microsoft)

Re: Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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post #8

Stupid question, perhaps: was/it possible for this sub to have any kind of beaconing or communication system that works at depth? It seems like one of this first things I'd investigate before deciding to build a sub.

Summary: water attenuates radio signals, and a 4Km cable is going to be way heavy and subject to currents.

Well they paid the price for that bit of efficient thinking, didn’t they?

Re: Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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post #17

> According to the BBC, the entire sub is bolted shut from the outside, so even if the vessel surfaces, the occupants cannot escape without outside assistance and could suffocate within the capsule. Why is the submarine bolted shut from the outside?

It makes no sense as the pressure would prevent you from opening it from the inside anyway until you are back on the surface.

Re: Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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post #10

On one hand, 'if it ain't broke' etc. On the other, 'wait, what?'. The entire operation manages to somehow feel both incredibly sophisticated (it's not easy to get a sub to that depth) and simultaneously incredibly stupid.

What's wrong with using COTS components?

Nothing, the issue is who is buying and implementing it.

Re: Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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post #8

Stupid question, perhaps: was/it possible for this sub to have any kind of beaconing or communication system that works at depth? It seems like one of this first things I'd investigate before deciding to build a sub.

Summary: water attenuates radio signals, and a 4Km cable is going to be way heavy and subject to currents.

Sound carries very efficiently in water.

https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/sound01/backgrou...

https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2005/02/secrets-whales-long...

The sub should have had an acoustic transponder that broadcast telemetry which could also be used to locate it.

Re: Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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post #8

Stupid question, perhaps: was/it possible for this sub to have any kind of beaconing or communication system that works at depth? It seems like one of this first things I'd investigate before deciding to build a sub.

The sub had a limited acoustic telemetry system for transmitting to the host ship. That signal was lost, so presumably the sub has suffered some type of serious failure.

Re: Submarine missing near Titanic used a $30 Logitech gamepad for steering

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess for the immense pressure you get at that depth. However an emergency release would still make sense.

But, as with airplane doors (but in the opposite direction), if the door was designed to open outwards then you couldn't open it under pressure no matter how hard you pushed

At those pressures I don't think you would want to open the door even if you could. I was more thinking about being at the surface and having nobody else to unbolt it from the outside.
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