Would like to see reddit stats
Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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> all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction The question is whether it can become a default place to build an online community. Currently, the answer is no unless you have extremely strong ideological coherence that will get your users through the Kafkaesque onboarding process.
Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design. And I welcome their experimentation. But Lemmy.world is... fine-ish? The main issue is the bugs. If the sending of the confirm email fails, the website spins forever without an error. (And it looks like so many "confirm emails' were sent, that Lemmy.world was getting blocked for spam by its provider). If you have an underscore in your username, the signup proce…
> Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design
Beehaw fine. It was deliberate and up front about its gating, and they processed within a day or two, which again is fine because that’s what they said they’d need. (There are still random login bugs and the content leaves much to desire.) The process of getting one’s head around why a server must be selected, what trade offs that entails and how to make a decision about it is almost proudly dismissed by the Lemmy community, which is frustrating.
Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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> Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? I did, twice. It took at least half an hour between bugs and scanning HN for answers to questions I was repeatedly told I shouldn’t be asking. (Like, how do I choose a server and what consequences does that decision bring. Questions which, after a defederation and onboarding bug and login bug, seemed quite pertinent.) Then there was minimal content, and to top it…
100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I feel like I've seen your comments before... my understanding of you is that you'd probably enjoy the https://programming.dev , although the signup process there is a bit harder. The admins at https://Lemmy.world continues to fix various bugs / performance issues. ---------- It looks like Beehaw.org curated the strongest community "before th…
100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed.
I see them being discussed. I don’t see them as “real issues” with lemmy though. They’re bugs to be fixed, not fundamental problems with the federation model.
Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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I'm sure Reddit is prepared for a small contraction in their active userbase while also seeing a significant increase in monetizability of the remaining users.
A small number of users provide what attracts the rest of the userbase. It will be interesting to see which small group leaves.
Those users aren't leaving the platform. They have no incentive to do so. Hard to gain imaginary internet points on a slow, broken federated system.
Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I feel like I've seen your comments before... my understanding of you is that you'd probably enjoy the https://programming.dev , although the signup process there is a bit harder. The admins at https://Lemmy.world continues to fix various bugs / performance issues. ---------- It looks like Beehaw.org curated the strongest community "before th…
100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I see them being discussed. I don’t see them as “real issues” with lemmy though. They’re bugs to be fixed, not fundamental problems with the federation model.
I can agree on that too.
Fediverse, and Lemmy in particular, has "good bones" on it. But the software desperately needs to fix a bunch of bugs. They weren't quite ready for #RedditBlackout, but who would be?
I'm thinking more from the perspective of kbin vs Lemmy. I don't think anyone's noted kbin bugs. kbin.social grew to over 35k+ users this past weekend, so they're also having a substantial boost from #RedditBlackout.
Community has somewhat arbitrarily chosen Lemmy as the first project to check out. Nothing wrong with that. I think I'll try kbin.social soon and see if my experiences are better. Especially since kbin.social is federating with Beehaw.org, Lemmy.world and other instances.
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But I feel like the choice of front-end is important. Little differences, like @community (kbin) vs !community (Lemmy) will make things incompatible in the long run. So a community needs to choose whether to be on kbin-side or lemmy-side of the fediverse.
Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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100% agree. These are the real issues with Lemmy that need to be discussed. I see them being discussed. I don’t see them as “real issues” with lemmy though. They’re bugs to be fixed, not fundamental problems with the federation model.
I can agree on that too. Fediverse, and Lemmy in particular, has "good bones" on it. But the software desperately needs to fix a bunch of bugs. They weren't quite ready for #RedditBlackout, but who would be? I'm thinking more from the perspective of kbin vs Lemmy. I don't think anyone's noted kbin bugs. kbin.social grew to over 35k+ users this past weekend, so they're also having a substantial boost from #RedditBlack…
Are you finding one community more pragmatic than the other?
The fundamental issue I found with Lemmy was the refusal to accept the onboarding process as being off putting to reasonable people I would want to interact with in an online community.
Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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I've been planning a jump across, but have been waiting it out to see if they see the error of their ways. Thus far they just keep jumping from one awful talking point to the next like a toddler trying to rationalize bad behaviour.
Same-ish, but: I'm not using reddit in the meantime to send a message of "this is what you're looking at when reddit keeps their current plans". I don't know if that's also part of your master plan, but if not, at least if a significant number of people think like that, then reddit has little reason to care. I'm also on Tildes now, probably because of the invite-only FOMO, but a full comparative study (figuring out w…
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Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
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I'm not sure what any of that has to do with using websockets by default vs traditional rest data fetching?
You can cache some REST requests which would reduce the load of serving them out of the web socket request each time. More importantly though (with either of these) is that when Google looks at the page, there are no links for it to traverse or index. This also means that the site/community isn't discoverable from a random person searching for it inhibiting organic growth. For example, if you do https://www.google.co…
Choosing a random Lemmy instance, I see server rendered content and links that are followable. Searching for 'site:' on Google turns up plenty of results, very much identical to what I see when searching for 'site:reddit.com'. Google seems to have no trouble indexing the site.
I expect you won't see results on Google, save for when you explicitly ask for the site, because there isn't much in the way of reputation. You are highly unlikely to see my personal blog, which is just plain old boring as it gets HTML, come up in search results for the same reason.
Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
#79A bit off topic, but why does it seem like not a single page on this site uses caching of any sort? Every time it’s brought up and I click into it I’m met with minute(s) long loading screens. Surely they aren’t pulling all of these stats from every node every single page load right?
I don’t think this is off topic, because this is a common theme across all of Lemmy. Not necessarily no caching, but abysmal performance across the board. As much as I want the project to succeed it’s unusable currently, and with more Reddit communities coming back from the blackout, their opportunity to claim the user base in the long run is already passed. The stats over the last month are impressive (if you can ge…
I've experienced that too for sure, but https://lemmy.world/ has been pretty responsive for me.
Keep in mind this is a little different than other social networks - there isn't a single centralized server so if you hit the software on a server that's underpowered or not configured properly, you'll get a very different experience.
Re: Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)
#80A bit off topic, but why does it seem like not a single page on this site uses caching of any sort? Every time it’s brought up and I click into it I’m met with minute(s) long loading screens. Surely they aren’t pulling all of these stats from every node every single page load right?
I don’t think this is off topic, because this is a common theme across all of Lemmy. Not necessarily no caching, but abysmal performance across the board. As much as I want the project to succeed it’s unusable currently, and with more Reddit communities coming back from the blackout, their opportunity to claim the user base in the long run is already passed. The stats over the last month are impressive (if you can ge…
For me, I find Reddit also often abysmal.
Their performance has always been hit and more often miss. I was a fairly heavy user, a lot less now. From the hilariously shite search results, to their alien equivalent of the fail whale showing up a few times a month at least. Sometimes a refresh resolves, sometimes doing something else and then coming back later resolves it.
Don't get me started on the new UI, or how the old less awful UI loves to drag me back into the new extra shit one.
I don't know if I'm being more demanding, or extra pissy, or what. Is this not most people's experience of Reddit?
And they've had millions of dollars and nearly two decades to unfuck it. I still remember the /r/bestof post (linking to /r/askreddit) that taught us "502, it went through; 504, try once more." because commenting was occasionally a total dice roll and the error messages were obtuse.
If I have to eat some lag in the early days of Lemmy or wherever, so be it. I'm fed up with Reddit's shit, I'll try someone else's.