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Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by bacchusracine »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #167
bacchusracine wrote: post #152

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>There's plenty of censorship on many large Reddit subs already. Just look at the difference between r/worldnews and r/anime_titties (which is also world news, name is misleading). No, see, since it hasn't effected them (yet?)there is no good faith reason to be against censorship. The only ones effected by it or worried by it are the wrongthinkers and bad people and who cares about them ?

That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view.

> That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view.

Apologies for not being more clear but I was actually agreeing with you from the sarcastic viewpoint of the person you were replying to.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by lelanthran »

0xffff2 wrote: post #90
VikingCoder wrote: post #74

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If the Lemmy fediverse is so fragmented... Then shouldn't people like us run our own instances, which then just act like an aggregator and wrapper around our single user account? Or am I federating TOO MUCH in a way that's hard to explain to new people? Because in my head... Each subreddit/community maps almost perfectly to 1 instance, and each technically savvy user also maps almost perfectly to 1 instance. That fee…

You're basically right. The devs have explicitly said that the ideal is for every user to run their own instance.that said, while it's not hard to run an instance it's well beyond the level of effort most people are ever going to spend.

> The devs have explicitly said that the ideal is for every user to run their own instance

I think the only people motivated to do that would be trolls and spammers. In fact, it's probably easily automated too.

Spam, get banned, restart instance, repeat.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by FlyingSnake »

irdc wrote: post #105
FlyingSnake wrote: post #25

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I am also interested in self hosting my own lemmy instance just for myself and my close friends. Can you share the details of your setup? Do you host your RasPi at home? > risk of being defederated I was not aware of this risk. How does this defederation work?

> Can you share the details of your setup? I’m running OpenBSD 7.3 and manually compiled Lemmy 0.17.4 from git (I plan to eventually submit it as a port). I’m running lemmy-server and lemmy-ui behind relayd to ensure both are accessible (this is a bit finicky, refer to the nginx config in the official Docker container to see how everything needs to be forwarded to make federation work). Lemmy-server (the backend) is…

How does the RasPi connect to the internet, DNS resolution, etc? I've not tried a home lab since years so no idea what's possible now.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by SkyPuncher »

bacchusracine wrote: post #171
SkyPuncher wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view.

> That’s a full mis-representation of my argument while projecting your view. Apologies for not being more clear but I was actually agreeing with you from the sarcastic viewpoint of the person you were replying to.

Apologies. Your impression of the argument was so spot on that I couldn't actually read the sarcasm in it :P

Just to be clear, I think there are bad forms of censorship. My point is simply my use of social media tends to not overlap with the places where those bad forms of censorship occur.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by tracker1 »

n6h6 wrote: post #160
less_less wrote: post #109

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Which instance is that, if you don't mind my asking?

I am also curious. The main reason I haven't even tried figuring Lemmy out is because I figured it'd be exclusively full of "free speech" people, like other Reddit alternatives.

I think there's room for both... I'm also pretty much okay with judicious use of individual block buttons, as well as add-ons that will allow shared/convention block lists. I generally lean towards a platform being open (source and speech), and letting individuals filter. Of course, that would leave opportunity for someone to create solutions. Site bans also happen to/from some systems.

I also find that many people are way too quick to label, and will find myself tending towards that as well. In practice, I try to keep a conversation open and civil so long as personal insults aren't flying. I am human, however and will also close conversations if I reach a point where I, myself, am likely to slip. I feel it's a fair approach.

I do miss when online communities were mostly local BBSes where you will meet, see and interact with locals that will have differing views from you. That doesn't mean there aren't toxic personalities, but only that a little bit of understanding can at least go a long way in terms of community and society. I feel that, in terms of politics at least, negotiation from opposing views is supposed to be part of what makes it worth. The general ill feelings towards anything that is "other" is disappointing.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by VikingCoder »

nobody9999 wrote: post #157
0xffff2 wrote: post #90

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You're basically right. The devs have explicitly said that the ideal is for every user to run their own instance.that said, while it's not hard to run an instance it's well beyond the level of effort most people are ever going to spend.

>while it's not hard to run an instance it's well beyond the level of effort most people are ever going to spend. This. And it's not just lemmy either. Mastodon, pixelfed, diaspora and other fediverse-capable platforms are a pain in the ass to set up and self host. As a technical guy, I've set up most of these and while it's certainly possible to do, the hoi polloi don't have the knowledge/skills to do so and aren't…

I love Sandstorm.io, but each instance seems to act as an island of users / apps, by design.

...I wish it had thrived enough to have Federated Apps integrated with it intelligently.

I love how the App Store works on Sandstorm.io and in Linode (for initial set-up, anyway).

I also hope that this stuff gets integrated with something like Tailscale... So if I run an instance, I can see which individual users or apps on other instances are allowed to talk to my apps on my instance, and it's all end-to-end encrypted...

I continue to hope for the fediverse to do well!

And yes, people will subscribe to Allowlists and Denylists, and that's not great, but people are terrible...

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by tracker1 »

VikingCoder wrote: post #74
NoboruWataya wrote: post #2

What instances are people here using? I recently decided to give Lemmy a try. From what I had been seeing I was planning to sign up to BeeHaw, only to find that they had defederated two of the largest instances due to their lax sign-up policies. I can understand their reasoning and it looks like it was relatively well handled, but it still makes that instance impractical. I ended up going to VLemmy as it was one of t…

If the Lemmy fediverse is so fragmented... Then shouldn't people like us run our own instances, which then just act like an aggregator and wrapper around our single user account? Or am I federating TOO MUCH in a way that's hard to explain to new people? Because in my head... Each subreddit/community maps almost perfectly to 1 instance, and each technically savvy user also maps almost perfectly to 1 instance. That fee…

I'd thought about running a vanity instance with me being the only user. I can then sub to who I want/where I want as long as my instance isn't blocked... though I do feel that block/clean lists should be at the individual level and not generally at the instance level and easier to share in sub-communities.

I prefer blocking at individual level(s) as well over platform blocking, even for what I see myself. YMMV though.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by tracker1 »

finder83 wrote: post #170
failuser wrote: post #165

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Why not join Truth Social, a or other dedicated conservative social network instead?

A few reasons: 1. I appreciate open and friendly discussion with people who don't think like me. The atmosphere, even of /r/conservative is very different than something like truth social. I don't want to be in an echo chamber, and the content from the echo chamber seems tailored to click-bate. i.e. "Watch X DESTROY Y with Logic", or conspiracy theories. I read a variety of news, and I don't need another source for i…

I'm pretty much of a similar mind. I don't want to be closed off from dissenting opinion. I'm pretty free speech and although I'm not in favor of platform blocking, I'm all for personal blocking, and/or creating niche communities, maybe ones not even federated.

I think there's a lot of value in seeing differing opinions even if you don't agree with them, as long as the discussion remains civil. That goes for myself as much as anyone else, I'm human, but I'll tend to cut off once personal insults are flowing.

I got the domain jump.red a while ago, to make a more conservative/libertarian community... may throw a lemmy instance up this weekend there. Won't necessarily fit the bulk, but I think there's room. Was also thinking on putting up one on the bbs/tech related domains I have.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by shagie »

unshavedyak wrote: post #108
shagie wrote: post #104

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> ... This isn't even funded i believe. ... It is currently being worked on through a grant from https://nlnet.nl/ https://lemmy.ml/comment/479066 > When our open source grant from NLNet runs out at the end of this year, we will have to switch to full community funding, probably via yearly funding drives. Currently we only have two full-time devs, @nutomic@lemmy.ml and I, but could potentially add more to our little…

Appreciate the info, thanks!

https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_a...

> ...

> For the past three years dessalines and I have been funded to work on Lemmy full-time by generous support from the NLnet foundation. These donations are paid out when we implement certain new features. But now we are busy answering questions, reviewing pull requests and urgentlyfixing problems. That means we are unable to work on the milestones agreed with NLnet, and won’t receive payments from them. We are increasingly reliant on user donations to pay our bills. These donations currently add up to 1500 Euros per month, which is not even enough to pay minimum wage for the two of us. Hopefully more users can consider donating, so that we can put our full attention to making Lemmy better for everyone, and possibly add more developers to our worker co-op in the future.

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