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Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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As a Fediverse user, I don't even care about these instances. What I am looking for is the communities to join, some handle to follow, but those are harder to find ;( I won't switch to Lemmy as a long time Friendica user, that kinda breaks the point of Fediverse

This is exactly right. the user experience needs to be centered around finding the community not selecting an instance.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Would it be ridiculous of me to think that some of the defederation drama on Lemmy has been crafted by Reddit in some way to discourage adoption?

I have my share of problems with Reddit, but most of the stuff I read about the big Lemmy instances make it seem like the mods of some instances are teenagers on acid. Marxism is in the history books, and "deconstructing our privilege" sounds like something their therapist told them they needed to do and they're projecting.

It all feels a bit fake.

On Reddit I always felt like the naive utopian change the world stuff was confined to a few subs.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#123

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I'm on Beehaw, and I like the way the defederation was handled. Here's the latest from them: https://beehaw.org/post/594843 You can see some positive comments from users about the change and a transparent road map for re-federating. To put it another way, would you want to join an instance that isn't trying (or is failing to) contain harassment and other forms of bad actors? That's the challenge the de-fed is address…

Seems like beehaw is a very pro-censorship platform, and everything that social media should not be, so it will be a hard pass for me. Social media is a big enough echo chamber Edit: Now having read their "What is Beehaw" Post [1], I can clearly see I was correct and would NEVER want to be a part of that oppressive community, That post is fill with political ideology, plainly false statements, and mental contractions…

I didn't find the original post so bad... it surely sounds like someone a bit unstable, guilty of their own existence... but not bad, specially when you start reading comments and learn that some people are so supportive of the idea of "being nice" that they suggest the author should fork Lemmy and move Beehaw to their own platform because the Lemmy creators have different ideology than themselves :D omg, talk about being intolerant.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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post #31

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> harassment Harassment is such a vague term and has been stretched out to cover such a huge swathe that it can basically used to police almost anything.

Agreed. This is a strength of federation. Pick an instance that defines the term the same way you do. Communities with strong usage guidelines, like HN, can feel very safe to use.

> Pick an instance that defines the term the same way you do.

And this is why the idea of the fediverse (outside of a content blind common carrier type scenario) is DOA. Once you get outside spam and widely illegal shit, defining the "terms the same way you do" has nearly as many possibilities as users, and the overlap of that Venn diagram does not exist - so the natural evolution is just a bunch of tiny instances none of which want to federate with another.

The only purpose these new fediverse systems seem to have is for disjoint communities to increase availability - in one of the clumsiest ways possible and at the wrong level of abstraction.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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post #51

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Things that are destined to fail: * Cryptocurrencies who's sole reason to exist is to justify its own existence. "We need token X to perform operation Y. Operation Y is important to facilitate the trade of token X". Seriously, how many tokens exist for the only purpose of being "gas" for its own network? * Social networks that only discuss itself and its own existence. * Programming languages where the largest projec…

> Social networks that only discuss itself and its own existence. This is a phase that every single new platform/tech passes through. All of them. (Yes, fediverse isn't new, but it's new to many right now...)

See also Gemini, where all the content is about implementing Gemini and using Gemini.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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post #4

Is anyone able to sign up on any Lemmy instance. If I try to sign up, the sign up button just turns into a spinning wheel which keeps spinning for ever. It does not seem to be load issue. When I click sign up, the browser does not seem to send any request to the server either except for a request to "symbols.svg". Is the sign up button even working?

There are three problems I'm aware of.

1. Too long username

2. Username contains _

3. Too long password

All three cause "spinning forever" problem without any notification what the problem actually was.

Yeah, not the best sign up experience, I'll tell you that much. Apparently other people around here have noticed other ways for the signup process to fail.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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post #121

As a Fediverse user, I don't even care about these instances. What I am looking for is the communities to join, some handle to follow, but those are harder to find ;( I won't switch to Lemmy as a long time Friendica user, that kinda breaks the point of Fediverse

This is exactly right. the user experience needs to be centered around finding the community not selecting an instance.

What user experience? They gained a Lilliputian amount of users from this Reddit debacle. UX fail

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#128

What instances are people here using? I recently decided to give Lemmy a try. From what I had been seeing I was planning to sign up to BeeHaw, only to find that they had defederated two of the largest instances due to their lax sign-up policies. I can understand their reasoning and it looks like it was relatively well handled, but it still makes that instance impractical. I ended up going to VLemmy as it was one of t…

I think the easiest way to deal with that is to register a new handle directly through the instance hosting the community you want to participate into. I think participating in the community beats federation and having one handle for every instance. I don't think users care about federation.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

#129
Federation is never going to work with normal users and this thread alone proves why. The top comments are bickering about defederation and fragmentation.

Normal people don't care, this is all too complex and the community politics are mind numbing. It's no wonder centralized systems continue to win. I'm a technical person and I don't even want to bother with this kind of stuff.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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post #14

Calling an instance without users "awesome" is stretching it. Unfortunately, less than 10 users makes up a large majority, and those have very, very small communities.

I've joined lemmy.world and there seems to be some stuff going on there, but the only programming community with any traction seems to be Beehaw's: https://lemmy.world/c/programming@beehaw.org

But that's still almost empty... I've been visiting for a week, and I think the posts I saw a week ago are still there on the first page, with just a couple new articles showing up every few days :(

I am in desperate need for something to replace reddit.com/r/programming, if anyone has a hint where people are moving, would love to hear it (at least some reddits like /r/lisp are still going - but they never had a lot of traffic in the first place - still more than Lemmy).

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