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Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by 8organicbits »

jorvi wrote: post #31
8organicbits wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on Beehaw, and I like the way the defederation was handled. Here's the latest from them: https://beehaw.org/post/594843 You can see some positive comments from users about the change and a transparent road map for re-federating. To put it another way, would you want to join an instance that isn't trying (or is failing to) contain harassment and other forms of bad actors? That's the challenge the de-fed is address…

> harassment Harassment is such a vague term and has been stretched out to cover such a huge swathe that it can basically used to police almost anything.

Agreed. This is a strength of federation. Pick an instance that defines the term the same way you do. Communities with strong usage guidelines, like HN, can feel very safe to use.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by [deleted] »

goykasi wrote: post #49
ticoombs wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > Passwords can't be longer than 20char > This has to be a bad joke. There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding. > Sorry, this is supposed to be a viable alternative to Reddit? It is an alternative that removes a problem that Reddit users were facing. Lack of Control. It gives control back to the users. I wouldn't say it's perfect but if a person doesn't want a company being completely in contro…

> There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding What have they been doing since 2019?

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Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by enragedcacti »

phpisthebest wrote: post #50
8organicbits wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on Beehaw, and I like the way the defederation was handled. Here's the latest from them: https://beehaw.org/post/594843 You can see some positive comments from users about the change and a transparent road map for re-federating. To put it another way, would you want to join an instance that isn't trying (or is failing to) contain harassment and other forms of bad actors? That's the challenge the de-fed is address…

Seems like beehaw is a very pro-censorship platform, and everything that social media should not be, so it will be a hard pass for me. Social media is a big enough echo chamber Edit: Now having read their "What is Beehaw" Post [1], I can clearly see I was correct and would NEVER want to be a part of that oppressive community, That post is fill with political ideology, plainly false statements, and mental contractions…

It isn't trying to be a platform, its trying to be a community in the same sense that a church or a softball league is a community. That takes handling things differently and they can afford doing that because its a federated network where someone who doesn't want to be OPPRESSED can just go to a different instance.

> Our goal is to create a platform in which nice people will want to stick around so that the experience is less toxic than other websites and because of such it needs to resemble an offline community - the rules must be more open to interpretation and the way the rules are interpreted needs to be a community effort.

> We want this to be a community - this means that discussions about behavior should organically arise. When someone violates a rule they aren’t banned immediately, but rather reminded that they need to behave appropriately. In the offline world, this might resemble a friend asking you about how you treated their friend, a pastor pulling you aside and talking to you about how you’ve seemed on edge lately, or security asking you not to vape inside their establishment.

Beehaw is a Community: https://beehaw.org/post/140733

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by Sander_Marechal »

distcs wrote: post #4

Is anyone able to sign up on any Lemmy instance. If I try to sign up, the sign up button just turns into a spinning wheel which keeps spinning for ever. It does not seem to be load issue. When I click sign up, the browser does not seem to send any request to the server either except for a request to "symbols.svg". Is the sign up button even working?

Try signing up on kbin.social. It's not Lemmy but an entirely different piece of software, but fully interoperable with Lemmy thanks to ActivityPub. So you can view and interact with Kbin posts from Lemmy and the other way around.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by distcs »

Sakos wrote: post #43
ticoombs wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > Passwords can't be longer than 20char > This has to be a bad joke. There are plenty of rough edges, that the community is finding. > Sorry, this is supposed to be a viable alternative to Reddit? It is an alternative that removes a problem that Reddit users were facing. Lack of Control. It gives control back to the users. I wouldn't say it's perfect but if a person doesn't want a company being completely in contro…

The vast majority of casual users don't care. They want something that works and doesn't get in their way with weird bullshit. If you want lemmy to be something other than a self-filtered community of misfits and outcasts, you need to make it convenient and easy to use/grok for casual users. Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought.

> Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought.

What is your personal gripe against Lemmy? Lemmy is a FOSS project developed by volunteers. The instances are run by volunteers for fun. It may become something or may not become anything. But the people developing and maintaining Lemmy will have fun regardless, I'm sure.

And all that hard work and fun is offered as a gift to you and me if we want to join one of their instances. You and I don't have to. But that option is there as a gift. Why are you so angry with this gift? If you don't like it, don't use it!

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by Firmwarrior »

phpisthebest wrote: post #50
8organicbits wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm on Beehaw, and I like the way the defederation was handled. Here's the latest from them: https://beehaw.org/post/594843 You can see some positive comments from users about the change and a transparent road map for re-federating. To put it another way, would you want to join an instance that isn't trying (or is failing to) contain harassment and other forms of bad actors? That's the challenge the de-fed is address…

Seems like beehaw is a very pro-censorship platform, and everything that social media should not be, so it will be a hard pass for me. Social media is a big enough echo chamber Edit: Now having read their "What is Beehaw" Post [1], I can clearly see I was correct and would NEVER want to be a part of that oppressive community, That post is fill with political ideology, plainly false statements, and mental contractions…

Me: Surely it couldn't be that bad

Beehaw: On this platform I attempted to address this emerging problem of rationalism

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by Sakos »

unshavedyak wrote: post #57
Sakos wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of casual users don't care. They want something that works and doesn't get in their way with weird bullshit. If you want lemmy to be something other than a self-filtered community of misfits and outcasts, you need to make it convenient and easy to use/grok for casual users. Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought.

Lemmy is what it is. Why is it on Lemmy to be what millions of Redditors want as an alternate to Reddit? Your reply seems so hostile when all Lemmy did is exist. This isn't a VC startup. This isn't even funded i believe. Why the hostility?

1) People have been gathering around the idea of moving to lemmy (see the Star Trek subreddit for example), resulting in a number of posts over the past week here about it

2) My general frustration with FOSS projects having zero interest in good UX/UI design, resulting in a lack of prioritization for basic stuff like this

Like, if Lemmy has no interest in being a viable option to most people, then fine. People just need to stop pretending that it is.

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by distcs »

ticoombs wrote: post #36
nologic01 wrote: post #29

Would be quite useful to add the focus of each instance (e.g. tecnhology, music, art, etc). Reddit migrants to lemmy would probably want to join specialized instances that resemble the subs they frequented. p.s. checking out beehaw I realise that lemmy can be run either as a reddit alternative (with lots of subreddits communities on different topics) or as a discourse type forum (with categories). thats good flexibil…

Any instance can connect to any other instance by design. That includes any of the communities (sub Reddits). Any community is available from any instance. So if you join a general instance (like reddthat.com #selfplug) you can search in the communities and find any other community and subscribe to it. browse.feddit.de is the current place that searches every fediverse instance, and indexes all the communities. So yo…

> Any instance can connect to any other instance by design. That includes any of the communities (sub Reddits). Any community is available from any instance.

Which is both good and bad. Good because federation of course. But it also ends up fracturing the community. Say all the r/python people decide to move out from Reddit to Lemmy. They are probably going to go to different Lemmy instances each with their own c/python community. Yes you can follow any c/python from any instance but let's be honest, how many such c/python communities are you going to follow?

Re: Comparison of different Lemmy Instances

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Post by Sakos »

distcs wrote: post #65
Sakos wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The vast majority of casual users don't care. They want something that works and doesn't get in their way with weird bullshit. If you want lemmy to be something other than a self-filtered community of misfits and outcasts, you need to make it convenient and easy to use/grok for casual users. Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought.

> Based on your reply, it's clear that lemmy will never be anything other than an afterthought. What is your personal gripe against Lemmy? Lemmy is a FOSS project developed by volunteers. The instances are run by volunteers for fun. It may become something or may not become anything. But the people developing and maintaining Lemmy will have fun regardless, I'm sure. And all that hard work and fun is offered as a gift…

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