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/r/pics is now just pics of John Oliver after they were forced to open. They are open, people can post pics but mods will remove everything that's not John Oliver. Same with /r/gifs /r/steam was forced open and they'll most likely pivot to posting pictures of actual steam.
It’s Reddits platform. There’s no way to beat them other than leaving.
It’s Reddits platform. There’s no way to beat them other than leaving.
The most bizarre thing is how any mods could ever have thought that an indefinite blackout would possibly result in a win for them. Reddit, the company, had and has 100% of the power. At least workers on strike can march with signs around the factory and try to block replacements from entering. Mods have zero, zilch, zip power to prevent Reddit from doing whatever it wants with subreddits and mods' accounts. Is it bl…
That will leave just the power hungry loons.
* Reddit probably suffers from the same sort of delusion that Twitter does in that its True Believers believe that the whole world is participating in their platform when it’s only a small fraction of the human population.
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So the only ones staying are the power tripping losers? That will bode well for the health of the platform. /s Then again, maybe such platforms were never “healthy” to begin with. Instead of healthy open discussion, the karma system creates a scenario no different from the Black Mirror episode “Nosedive”.
I’m thinking the actual outcome of this protest is that reddit has to replace all moderators with paid staff. Since free mods are all insane. The altruistic mods left when it became clear they aren’t building a community, they are doing unpaid janny work for a corporation that hates them.
Paid staff would indeed be a huge, huge improvement over ideologically driven no-lifes.
What tipped me over to Reddit's side regarding the API change is the possibility that it will end the practice of mods sharing automated block lists (if you post in a wrongthink subreddit, many other subreddits will preemptively ban you regardless of your actual activity in them, if any). If so, and if there are fewer handfuls of powermods that control dozens/hundreds/thousands of subreddits, I'm all for the change.
This is not to say that I condone what /u/spez did regarding editing /r/The_Donald comments, or misrepresenting what happened on the call with Apollo's owner. Paid staff can and do unduly push their own ideological bents. But when there is a name and a face attached to a company employee, there is some hope of holding people to account. The Challenor mess should never have happened, but at least the person was fired by Reddit. I have never, ever seen any evidence in more than a decade on Reddit of any level of accountability from faceless, nameless mods when they misbehave.
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Not yet - there isn't a suitable replacement yet. But this would've been the perfect time for a Reddit alternative. I think this will actually not change much for the users themselves. They'll continue using Reddit as normal, and move on. Mod teams will be shuffled, and some of the people using third-party apps (like myself) will just... not use Reddit as much (or at all). I also don't know how a multi-hundred-millio…
Tildes is a replacement I have chosen, it is a million times better.
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I’m thinking the actual outcome of this protest is that reddit has to replace all moderators with paid staff. Since free mods are all insane. The altruistic mods left when it became clear they aren’t building a community, they are doing unpaid janny work for a corporation that hates them.
> I’m thinking the actual outcome of this protest is that reddit has to replace all moderators with paid staff. Since free mods are all insane. Paid staff would indeed be a huge, huge improvement over ideologically driven no-lifes. What tipped me over to Reddit's side regarding the API change is the possibility that it will end the practice of mods sharing automated block lists (if you post in a wrongthink subreddit,…
It’s easy for paid mods to remove abuse and illegal content. But it will be much harder for them to filter out off topic or low effort posts.
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> which has never been a big money maker. What are you on about, here?
Reddit has never made a lot of money. AI companies scrapped all their data for free which wasn't fair. So they start charging to support the site. I don't see how reddit owners are in the wrong here. But mods are behaving as expected, like petulant children.
The recorded phone calls from the Apollo developer have reddit agreeing with the dev’s suggestion that it is about the opportunity cost of having users using apps which are not easily monetised by reddit. Which is obvious to everyone so I don’t see why you’re pretending otherwise.
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Makes sense. Reddit moderators are even more deluded about where the site's value is than they portray its owners to be. It is certainly not in the moderation work, which many do to satisfy their need for power over others, and for each moderator there are 100 sycophants and narcissists lined up to take their place. The value is in the users, the people who create content. And to that end the freest, fairest, and mos…
The power-users and power-mods tend to overlap, so that's about the same group. People unhappy with moderator choices can do what they always did, make the community that matches what they want. > if people like it and want to use it and continue to participate ... Except the blind of course, or anyone else with accessibility needs. They'll be required to pay extra for access
How does this dubious and unsourced claim address anything I wrote even if it were true?
> People unhappy with moderator choices can do what they always did, make the community that matches what they want.
You can't on one hand protest that people should "do the right thing" and on the other hand do the "well akshually the rules..." thing. Going by the rules and what has always been done, reddit's owners can remove moderators and set API pricing how they like.
> ... Except the blind of course, or anyone else with accessibility needs. They'll be required to pay extra for access
People who "have accessibility needs" can interact with computers and web pages. And it doesn't even present a coherent argument to what I wrote anyway, it's just an appeal to emotion. Users can not be trusted with the decision to participate in communities they built because doing so would be an attack on blind people? That dog won't hunt.
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Tildes is a replacement I have chosen, it is a million times better.
It would be a nice replacement except for: > Tildes is currently in invite-only alpha, and you must be invited to be able to register. Most of the existing users have the ability to invite others
I do not yet have invite abilities, but I’m sure you can find someone here that does.
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Reddit has never made a lot of money. AI companies scrapped all their data for free which wasn't fair. So they start charging to support the site. I don't see how reddit owners are in the wrong here. But mods are behaving as expected, like petulant children.
If it was just about AI scraping they could have given the third party reader apps a free pass on API fees. The recorded phone calls from the Apollo developer have reddit agreeing with the dev’s suggestion that it is about the opportunity cost of having users using apps which are not easily monetised by reddit. Which is obvious to everyone so I don’t see why you’re pretending otherwise.
I don't see a lot of difference between reddit apps and AI companies.
Why do you pretend that apps should make money off reddit data without paying for it? Just because they did in the past doesn't mean they have to keep doing it now that everyone has realized it's a valuable commodity.