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Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by graftak »

kikokikokiko wrote: post #138
namtab00 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if only there was a way to block ads on WebOS on a LG TV... I only consume YouTube via its official app on the TV. There are no alternatives that allow ad blocking. It's utter shit without Premium... And I'm saying this while holding some non marginal number of GOOGL class A..

Smartvs are a joke. Once again: it amazes me that I'm an exception among this crowd, in having a laptop connected to my living room TV HDMI port 100% of the time. It's my workstation, and it's my entertainment center. Wireless mouse + wireless keyboard, the ultimate input medium. Whyyyyy don't ALL tech savy people do this is beyond my comprehension.

I perform my daily work duties on a computer, I’m (mentally) done with them by the time I get to relax.

I never see ads however, YouTube is not really a tv worthy outlet for me and otherwise I just AirPlay it (ad blocked).

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by specproc »

rtsil wrote: post #124
Dudester230602 wrote: post #88

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I often forget YouTube even has any ads, but then again I am using uBlock Origin.

Youtube without uBlock origin is a traumatizing experience, and it's gotten worse in the last month or so. It went from bearable to let's plug the laptop to the TV unbearable. A couple of weeks ago, I had 3 blocks of ads in 10 minute-videos for the first time. Now, I have 3 blocks of ad (before/middle/after) in 5 minute videos.

Yeah, I was staying at an Airbnb last week and they had a TV with YouTube. Absolutely horrendous, I couldn't get through a short video without it being cut in the middle. Was quite a shock after getting so used to Ublock.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by dizhn »

maxlamb wrote: post #142
wildrhythms wrote: post #106

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Only a matter of time now before Premium goes from no-ads to 'reduced-ads' ... bet on it

I've actually started to get short ads (3-4s) on YT starting about 3-4 months ago even though I've been paying YT premium for years at $18/month. I realized it's only when I cast it to my TV, so maybe that's how they can get away with it. It doesn't happen every time but was still pretty pissed about it.

It might be the casting depending on the device. I believe casting just refers a url to the device. Since you're not logged in there it will not know you have premium. TV apps where you can log in should work fine.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by checkyoursudo »

gerdesj wrote: post #131
samwillis wrote: post #118

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It's not just investors, Google is the quintessential example of a company that has taken metric based decision making too far. Everyone in the organisation has metrics to meet, and those KPIs affect promotions and pay. If your KPIs are entirely driven by revenue/profit it distorts the decision making of everyone and focuses on what large impact an individual or team can make to their bottom line, no mater what the c…

"Everyone in the organisation has metrics to meet, and those KPIs affect promotions and pay. If your KPIs are entirely driven by revenue/profit it ..." That is how a publicly traded corporation works, whether you or I like it or not. When you get a listing on stock exchanges you are asking for investment from Tom, Dick and Harry. In return you sell your soul errr provide a return on that investment, in return for mor…

I think that c-suite-shareholders and manager-shareholders generally make these decisions to pump their own investments in the company, and not directly for Tom, Dick, and Harry-shareholders. TD&H benefit, and will complain and drive the share price down if returns are not satisfactory, but the only effect of share prices being driven down is that c-suite-shareholders and manager-shareholders cannot cash out with as big of a sack of money.

So, I don't think that is how publicly traded companies HAVE to work, but yes that is how they do work. Managers do the best to pump the stock for their own personal gain, and who gives a damn if it fails long term because they want to be gone before then anyway.

Anyway, just my cynical view. I have no empirical evidence.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by cyanydeez »

elzbardico wrote: post #38

Google pruned their index so radically that it doesn't make a difference anymore. For a bit less common stuff, but yet nothing esoteric, I get to the last page around page 4 or 5. And most of the stuff on those 5 pages are mostly SEO-farm copies of the same stuff. I quit looking for recipes on google. Bought a dozen of recipe books last year. fuck that shit.

They just stopped indexing. I believe they basically just figured out how to cut their database to cater to as companies then just crawl only keywords

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by x1ph0z »

PugPaladin wrote: post #43

I'm surprised that I'm asking this because I've been such a fan of Google for years....but does anyone have alternative suggestions for Google products? ( Looking for alternative suggestions for: 1. Google Maps (yikes was it bad when I used it this week) 2. Google Docs (such a frustrating lack of features) 3. Google Drive (it's impossible to find anything when you are sharing docs with someone) 4. Google Search (Chat…

For Google maps if you have an iphone then i recommend Apple Maps. The traffic data isnt great and their map data could use work and no offline maps (yet!), but i find their directions easy to follow and the UX miles ahead. Lane changes are clearly communicated ahead of time, and the directions are something I’d tell another human, i.e fewer turns than the “optimal” path.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by timacles »

mvdtnz wrote: post #71
marak830 wrote: post #56

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As an ex chef, escoffier as a basis, then salt fat acid heat by Samin nosrat. Recipes are a guide for unfamiliar, but once you learn the profiles of each ingredient you can expand greatly. I know it's a bit off your comments and I certainly search myself for new basis to play with, but I hope it helps :-)

Respectfully this is obnoxious advice for the majority of home cooks. We just want to know what to cook and how.

It’s not even just obnoxious. It’s also just terrible advice even master chefs need to be exposed to a recipe to to know which ingredients to combine… to expect a home-cook to just come up with recipes at Homefr f is ridiculous. They’re just gonna end up cooking the same three or four things that they’ve been exposed to.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by aprdm »

gerdesj wrote: post #131
samwillis wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just investors, Google is the quintessential example of a company that has taken metric based decision making too far. Everyone in the organisation has metrics to meet, and those KPIs affect promotions and pay. If your KPIs are entirely driven by revenue/profit it distorts the decision making of everyone and focuses on what large impact an individual or team can make to their bottom line, no mater what the c…

"Everyone in the organisation has metrics to meet, and those KPIs affect promotions and pay. If your KPIs are entirely driven by revenue/profit it ..." That is how a publicly traded corporation works, whether you or I like it or not. When you get a listing on stock exchanges you are asking for investment from Tom, Dick and Harry. In return you sell your soul errr provide a return on that investment, in return for mor…

Not every company listed runs on a kpi framework

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by aprdm »

quechimba wrote: post #104
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #97

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They got me to pay for premium just to avoid ads. But I’m really struggling to justify paying for it, and its more likely that I’ll abandon the platform altogether.

I'm paying and I find it worth it because YT Music is included so I could cancel my Spotify subscription.

Yep same here. If Apple had something similar to YouTube I’d ditch paying them tho for Apple one

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Post by maxlamb »

j16sdiz wrote: post #157
maxlamb wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually started to get short ads (3-4s) on YT starting about 3-4 months ago even though I've been paying YT premium for years at $18/month. I realized it's only when I cast it to my TV, so maybe that's how they can get away with it. It doesn't happen every time but was still pretty pissed about it.

> .. only when I cast it to my TV Was it a LG TV? it could be the LG's own ad.

No it's clearly within Youtube, you can see the countdown within the app. My TV is over 10 years old and I've never seen an ad like this.
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