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Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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For anyone frustrated with Google searches poor result set - especially for very obscure search terms where it often returns "0 results" even though you know that what you're looking for is on the internet... Try Baidu. Its search index is much bigger, and even if you don't speak chinese it is very usable. I frequently find what I'm looking for there when Google fails me.

And as a bonus, problematic results are already removed by PRC censors so you don’t have to worry.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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post #121

For anyone frustrated with Google searches poor result set - especially for very obscure search terms where it often returns "0 results" even though you know that what you're looking for is on the internet... Try Baidu. Its search index is much bigger, and even if you don't speak chinese it is very usable. I frequently find what I'm looking for there when Google fails me.

And as a bonus, problematic results are already removed by PRC censors so you don’t have to worry.

Not really - it's chock full of spam.

But when Google says no results, I'd prefer to wade through a fre pages of spam than to simply not find what I'm looking for.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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My biggest problem with infinite scrolling in general is it clears scrolling state by browser back or page refresh. Sometimes there's no good result in the first page, or I want to keep searching for more investigation. When I find a seemingly interesting result after several scrolls and visit the page but find out it's not what I want, I want to go back to the search result and continue. But after browser back, the…

> it clears scrolling state by browser back Twitter handles this masterfully (or used to) > or page refresh. Technically you can use history.replaceState to store, ahem, state on the "current page", so nothing stops you from saving a cursor there to use when loading the content. The issue with infinite scroll is that very few people know how or care to "make it work correctly"

I wish browsers did this as a default option. The back button should never have a noticeable delay.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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post #83

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Nowadays while watching videos in YouTube, I get more occurrences of ads, even in short videos, compared to just a few days back. Very irritating. Started looking out for other options than YouTube.

I often forget YouTube even has any ads, but then again I am using uBlock Origin.

Youtube without uBlock origin is a traumatizing experience, and it's gotten worse in the last month or so. It went from bearable to let's plug the laptop to the TV unbearable. A couple of weeks ago, I had 3 blocks of ads in 10 minute-videos for the first time. Now, I have 3 blocks of ad (before/middle/after) in 5 minute videos.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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> number of ads ... also in Gmail I wonder when they cut IMAP/POP3 access to Gmail.

They won't. They'll find some bullshit "security" justification to force 2FA with 30 minute oauth tokens or something else that will make using IMAP too annoying for most, and which'll be difficult to automate.

That's exactly what they did with imap. I had scripts checking my gmail accounts using imap with password-based authentication, and for a while they allowed that as long as you expressly accepted that it was less secure, but not it's gone completely.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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Side note: It's so weird for me to hear the term "google search". It's what happens when you haven't used a site directly in years. I almost have to ask myself (facetiously), is Google Search still a thing?

The same thing has happened with Microsoft. I used to be a Windows/GUI user (never in love with the company going back to DOS, I was a PC-DOS user (IBM)) until I switched over to Linux many years ago. Microsoft basically ceased to exist (except for github).

I hear Microsoft in the news and it's almost like they exist in a parallel universe.

Apple - never has existed (for me). Facebook/Twitter - accts but never use. Spotify - nope. Etc, etc...

The only reason I bring this up is because, despite this, I still remain well-connected. I have lost nothing from the Web. I strongly feel that the hold these big tech companies have on many of us is tenuous at best. Google best not forget this.

Reddit certainly has forgotten and with but a metaphorical wave of my hand, reddit now too ceases to exist (for me) - and I've lost little. Big Tech... replaceable (hmm... mostly).

PS: Still rely/use Google (gmail, YouTube, Maps, Android), so there's one big tech firm I still depend on. YouTube, Maps and Android being the really hard ones to replace.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

#127

They had to make this change because they increased the number of ads. If the result is paginated, a high percentage of links in the first page would be ads. With infinite scroll that's not a problem because there are an infinite number of links on "the first page". Overall, Google has turned up the number of ads. Not just in search, but also in YouTube and also in Gmail. In YouTube, you didn't have ads in low-view-c…

You're seeing ADs on google? Lol.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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nah, still got paging. I use Singaporean IP and on firefox on android.

I'm in Europe and don't see the infinite scrolling setting unless I set my VPN to the US. Geofenced A/B testing.

I'm in France and I started seeing it earlier this morning.

Re: Ask HN: Has Google search switched to infinite scrolling for you too now?

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nowadays while watching videos in YouTube, I get more occurrences of ads, even in short videos, compared to just a few days back. Very irritating. Started looking out for other options than YouTube.

I often forget YouTube even has any ads, but then again I am using uBlock Origin.

I find it infinitely amusing the number of people, in HN for God's sake, that DO NOT use uBlock origin on every device they own. Every time I read that "40% of people use adblockers", I think about the average HN user and say to myself: "No way that stat is real".
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