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Re: Psychedelic scientist sends brains back to childhood

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Post by pengaru »

xcv123 wrote: post #60
pengaru wrote: post #59

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> That is not the point of micro-dosing. What would be the purpose of taking it, if it does absolutely nothing at all? This nonsense can be said of vitamins/supplements. Microdosing psychedelics is basically treating them similarly AIUI. As with vitamins/supplements, just because you can't detect any acute effects doesn't mean they're not having any impact, especially long-term. My own limited experience microdosing…

> This nonsense can be said of vitamins/supplements. That is a silly comparison. Vitamins are essential to life and prevent disease. They are not psychoactive substances. People microdose hallucinogens to "improve productivity, creativity and mood". That is an obvious detectable effect. These are potent psychoactive substances. Microdosing is comparable to caffeine and nicotine, not vitamins. > My own limited experie…

More like 5-HTP IMO.

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Post by pmoriarty »

xcv123 wrote: post #56
pengaru wrote: post #34

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> I felt smarter, and overall pretty great. I felt like I was making all these brilliant connections. And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all. AIUI what you're calling microdosing is still in the realm of macrodosing, and no shit your working memory and time management was affected. What you were feeling were low-key hallucinations.

> And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all. That is not the point of micro-dosing. What would be the purpose of taking it, if it does absolutely nothing at all? The idea is that you are taking a very small dose, to cause a mild effect, and not so much that you trip out and start hallucinating.

The effects of microdoses are below the threshold of perception.

If you can tell a difference when you take it then it's a small dose, not a microdose.

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Post by xcv123 »

pmoriarty wrote: post #62
xcv123 wrote: post #56

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> And here I thought the whole point of micro-dosing is the dose is too small to feel anything at all. That is not the point of micro-dosing. What would be the purpose of taking it, if it does absolutely nothing at all? The idea is that you are taking a very small dose, to cause a mild effect, and not so much that you trip out and start hallucinating.

The effects of microdoses are below the threshold of perception. If you can tell a difference when you take it then it's a small dose, not a microdose.

> If you can tell a difference when you take it then it's a small dose, not a microdose.

Objectively scientifically measurably false. Typical microdoses have a noticeable effect.

https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12...

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/microdosing-lsd

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/adb.13143

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Post by pesus »

M4v3R wrote: post #40
pizzafeelsright wrote: post #23

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I refuse to take any despite wanting to. I have thoughts on how it works, at a not physical realm. What makes you flip bit to joyous? What chemical or physical or physiological change happens? Does it wear off? I'm not depressed. I was at one point and found the solution. I have extensive joy. Yet I want to try because I think it does something that isn't the same bit flip you're experiencing.

At normal doses ( What is does is exactly what the article explains - it unlocks the inner child in you. You will be curious about everything, everyday objects will suddenly become interesting as if you saw them for the first time. Your senses might become connected, some people “see” music with their eyes closed for example. It will make your mind go places that it normally rarely or never visits and you’ll be able…

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Post by bglazer »

krrrh wrote: post #57
theprincess wrote: post #39

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I think you're right. On one side, you see adults who believe that sexuality and cross-gender identification are immutable, or at least practically immutable. Their goal is to expose e.g. heterosexual kids to the idea that some of their peers will be different from them so that they aren't shocked and scandalized by it later, then lash out unfairly as a result of prejudice against the unknown. On the other side, you…

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> Very few conservatives in 2023 are riled up by homosexuality.

This is absolutely not the case at the populist grassroots level. There are regular panics and outpourings of hatred for pride events, books mentioning homosexuality are outright banned in schools, gay teachers are targeted for harassment and fired. My state just passed a law banning drag shows, which have been a part of gay culture for decades.

Genuine question: do you live in a culturally conservative area? Do you have evangelical Christians in your social circles?

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Post by breck »

hospitalJail wrote: post #15
mtizim wrote: post #13

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Most of the psychedelic research I've seen boils down to "take psychedelics and do stuff to get a result, here's why you get the result". You can absolutely take psychedelics and do stuff yourself.

The American Medical Association says 'no no this is so unsafe, you need a Physician who completed US residency, doesnt matter if they are a lifelong expert in the craft from Europe, you pay our cartel or else. Ignore our blood letting, opioid, and ivermectin dark pasts.' I dream of a science based medical system in the future.

The scientific models of the past were so dumb. Like the ancient Humoral Theory, which modeled health as `health = fn(blood, phlegm, yellow bile, blackBile)`. Or models like Ayurveda which is roughly `health = fn(Vata, Pitta, Kapha)`.

Modern science has put all those dumb ideas to rest!

Now we know that the true model is: `health = fn(bigPharmaMed1, bigPharmaMed2, bigPharmaMed3)`.

Re: Psychedelic scientist sends brains back to childhood

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Post by breck »

mtlmtlmtlmtl wrote: post #33
randomopining wrote: post #31

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So you are convinced the real benefits lie in macro and not micro?

Yes. I should have specified that. Rare, larger doses.

This is my experience as well. Life changing if done on occasion (every few years in my experience). Some of the best days of my life (warning: every time I do them I start by seeing some seriously scary monsters before my positivity takes control).

Tried microdosing for a month once hoping it would make me smarter but seemed to have little effect.

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Post by houseinthesky »

theprincess wrote: post #39
randomopining wrote: post #29

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Sounds like the reason why there's a backlash against exposing kids to all of these controversial topics in the "culture wars" in the West.

I think you're right. On one side, you see adults who believe that sexuality and cross-gender identification are immutable, or at least practically immutable. Their goal is to expose e.g. heterosexual kids to the idea that some of their peers will be different from them so that they aren't shocked and scandalized by it later, then lash out unfairly as a result of prejudice against the unknown. On the other side, you…

> you don't see many conservatives boycotting national brands over young boys at hooters or child beauty pageants featuring little girls

You must have one heck of a filter bubble of what you're seeing in the world if you're not seeing conservatives complain about child beauty pageants. There was a massive conservative backlash to a Netflix documentary about child beauty pageants and the conservative internet meme landscape is full of content against "groomers" and anything that involves sexuality and children.

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

riskable wrote: post #49
sbelskie wrote: post #38

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Can you expand on this? I find it hard to understand what similarities you see to what children today are being “exposed” to and Charles Manson drugging people with LSD and convincing them to kill other people.

I think they're suggesting that young children--in their critical (mental) periods--can somehow turn gay or transgendered due to exposure/normalisation of gay and trans people. Except there's no science to back this up. All the scientific articles I've ever seen on the topic of gender and sexuality seem to indicate that the critical period for those attributes develop in the womb and not during childhood. The most li…

> The most likely reason for such deviations from what conservatives would consider, "normal sexuality" is endocrine-distrupting pollution. The kind that causes amphibians to change their sex, for example.

Ironically, conservatives as a voting bloc will be the first to vote to reduce environmental protections and regulations attempting to reduce this (or any) pollution.

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